The NI Border checks seem to be going well

They can leave whenever they want. It aint the uk brexit what is bothering them. Its for a fact irish people see it as Westminster are making decisions for them and most even unionists voted stay in the eu. That's wy they are so p1ssed. Adding to the fact the borders, the fake promises from our goverment as seem to have annoyed a good majority of them.

 

There’s some matches and a can of petrol. Both are sitting around doing nowt.

You light a match and chuck it in the can.

Whose fault is it when it explodes?

The match?

The petrol?

Or yours?

 

We invaded Ireland, Cromwell went over there and went a little mental, we let the Irish starve (in 1740), we then let the Irish starve again (1840s) while exporting food from Ireland for sale in London killing 1m and forcing 1m to flee and making men build roads to nowhere for scraps of food, Churchill sent in the Black and Tans, then they got independence (after the govt of the time made many of the mistakes currently being made by our government with respect to Scotland), then we made the Irish second class citizens in the UK while fighting a civil war against them for nearly 70 years - only euphemistically calling it "The Troubles" so it wasn't classed as a war, then finally got peace through the interventions of President Clinton, the EU, and Blair (among others). Then we fecked up the peace by voting for something that was always going to break it.

One large minority of the population of NI considers itself to be British and is upset that the checks introduced by Brexit have put a de facto border between the two halves. They are currently issuing deaths threats against anyone working on the border points at Larne - although there are suggestions that this is because of the damage to their drug smuggling route from the mainland.
The other large minority of the population of NI considers itself to be Irish, and would be equally upset by Brexit putting a land border between the UK and Ireland - especially those who cross the border going between their living room and kitchen.
Another large group of the population are both British *and* Irish, and think this is completely nuts - especially the attempts of the British government to make their status illegal despite it being in the GFA.

This would have been resolved by the UK staying in the Single Market and Customs Union (and Common Travel Area), but May introduced arbitrary red lines that ruled that out. Her backstop would also have removed the current issues, but Johnson came in and "fixed" them while lying - and continuing to lie - about the sea border between GB and NI.

I might have missed some stuff, but basically England bullied Ireland for somewhere between 300 and 800 years and is now finding that they have bigger, stronger friends.

 

Yeah...but apart from that, what's their problem

 

My brother in law who is a transport manager for FedEx says they are having right trouble getting stuff across to NI. There were 600 trailers waiting in Anglesey. One ferry left port with just 3 wagons on. Apparently a while back, there were empty shelves of some products in NI that was hushed up.

 

Brentry, its the future

 

Simple solution do away with democracy and let this board dictate.

 

Just because something is popular doesn't make it a good idea. Remember 49.999% (recurring) of the population have below average intelligence...

 

I'm re-reading a book i first read as a 16 year old which had me in tears at the time. It's called 'In Holy Terror' written in 1973 by the Guardian correspondent in Ireland at the time - a Geordie called Simon Winchester. There's a quote in it which seems really apt reading most of the posts in this thread.

"However deliberately most people in the South of Ireland try to ignore the fate of the six counties, the pathological ignorance of the Englishman on the matter is unsurpassable." Quite!

 

Are we on this board in that figure?

 

Probably 49.999% (recurring ) of you .

 

In 1965, a poll found 93% of British people thought homosexuality was an illness requiring medical treatment (it was legalised in 1967).
In 2003, an average of 54% of British people supported the Iraq War.
In 1965, 60% of Americans supported the war in Vietnam, by 1971 60% thought it was a mistake.

Plenty of other examples exist of popular sentiment being wrong with hindsight.

 

So according to your crystal ball it's all downhill from here?

 

Some are.

 

Well, fishing is shafted - offshore, shellfish & aquaculture, NI is shafted, musicians are shafted, small exporters are shafted, and any farmers that have tried to export to the EU are shafted. The rest might be about the same for a while.

 

re future of EU - keep an eye on Morawiecki (Poland) and Orban (Hungary.)

 

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I can remember when Peter Kay said garlic bread was the future and people ridiculed him. So you never know what lies ahead.

 

People accuse Johnson of not delivering on his promises, well he said "f*ck business " and he's well on the way to delivering that

 

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