[Club YouTube] HIGHLIGHTS | Nottingham Forest 0-0 Barnsley

Don’t think I will

 

Still can't believe we didn't get a penalty. Well, that's not true. I CAN believe it with regards to the poor standard of match officials these days.

 

Yet another appalling decision costs us

 

Glad I wasn’t the one who had to trawl through that again to find some good bits!

 

Reckon bottled it because we would have to have sent off him off too with him not playing the ball. Crazy that wasn’t given considering some of the nothing fouls he gave against us.

 

great still, what do we have to do to get a level playing field

 

We're all biased. We're all partizan. Even if we try not to be, we can't help it as we're so invested in our club. We sometimes appeal for penalties that just aren't. We often appeal for penalties that are soft and we'd feel aggrieved if they were given against us. But this one: their defender took hold of Helik's arm with both hands and pulled him back. It's not only a penalty, as clear as you'll see, it's also a sending off: a goal scoring opportunity, Helik was about to pull the trigger, with no attempt to play the ball. It's a shocker of a decision.

 

It's 23 minutes into the game, it should be - as you say - a penalty and a red card. It's as big of a game-changer as you can get.

But it's still not as bad as Woodrow getting shoved into the Cardiff 'keeper last Wednesday. That was 10 minutes in. That also is a penalty and a red card. Complete game-changer. But what made that one worse was, the officials gave that as a foul by Woodrow.

When Val said yesterday "we would have had six points" he is being optimistic, because you never know how a game could pan out. But I'd wager we'd have scored the penalty against Cardiff and gone on to beat them. And I've no doubt we'd have scored the penalty yesterday and gone on to win. Because Forest are woeful up front, which is some achievement considering they have Lewis Grabban, Lyle Taylor, Sammy Ameobi and Anthony Knockaert to choose from. That's one heck of an expensive group of players. Sat one place above the drop zone.

 

I bet that lot are on over £100k a week between them

 

They signed Krovinovic on the Friday, another kid from Man Utd yesterday and are supposedly signing Glen Murray tomorrow too. When is it not the players that are the issue, and someone/something else?

We have kept two clean sheets in the last 14 league games. Both against Forest. We got one in the cup against them too. And in July.

 

Whitey - do you know whether we've formally commented / complained about the referee in the Cardiff game? I hope we do about that and yesterday. We should be expressing our frustation and annoyance imo given the bad errors. VI will probably be charged for his comments yesterday, we should make it formal in our report.

 

I've never seen anyone sent off for a shove. If that were the case Moore should have been sent off for the push on Sibbick. Both cases they gained an unfair advantage and hence should have received yellow cards. Never been red though.

 

If it’s a shove to deny a goal scoring opportunity then surely it is a red?

 

Where a player commits an offence against an opponent within their own penalty area which denies an opponent an obvious goal-scoring opportunity and the referee awards a penalty kick, the offending player is cautioned if the offence was an attempt to play the ball; in all other circumstances (e.g. holding, pulling, pushing, no possibility to play the ball etc.) the offending player must be sent off.

 

The club has to file a report on the officials each game. There are set questions that need answering and scores given. But it’s all just noise and box ticking. If you complain, they aren’t then going to overturn anything and neither will they be biased towards you in the next game. All rather pointless.

With VAR we would have seen both decisions overturned. Hence why I am a fan of it, even if others aren’t. Because it’s fairer than trusting officials who just daren’t make big calls early in games.

 

VAR as it is now in the Premier league? Because I'm not so sure I would.

 

But my guess is that both referees haven't only been poor when they do our games so for me we should make representations to the EFL to help them improve and if they don't get them removed from the list. If you or I make blatant mistakes then we get feedback to improve our performance and if we keep on making them then I guess we might be disciplined and lose our job?

Edit: I guess the report is intended for that purpose?

 

Yeah I agree, it causes more controversy than it resolves as it is at the moment. The Son one a few days ago is glaring example where he was facing his own goal with an ankle fractionally over the half way line, and goal ruled out. Unbelievable Jeff

 

Never seen it happen though. There's pushing and shoving at every corner. Regards Woodrow, he scored anyway so defender didn't prevent a goal scoring opportunity. Should have been a goal though.