Are you alive?

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  1. SuperTyke

    SuperTyke Well-Known Member

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    Or under these measures do you merely exist?
     
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    As Radiohead once put it - I'm not living, I'm just killing time.
     
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    what can we do,1 percent of people die from it so if all country gets it 650,000 will die, 170,000 people die of cancer every year in U K, probably more this year due to coronavirus,we all concern ourselves with cancer but just get on with our lives,wonder what figure the corona death as to drop to before we just carry on??
     
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    Dunno, but there has to be a consideration of at what point we're doing more harm than good rather than just shutting up shop every time the number creeps back up. Without being too callous, I wonder how many years coronavirus takes that people would have otherwise lived, compared with the deaths as a result of suspensions of treatment, mental health issues, economic fallout etc. I don't know what the answer is, and it's horrible to think in such simple, brutal terms but we should be doing it.
     
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    Some of us were anti social waaaay before lockdown.
     
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    That's the thing. Same as you I don't want to be callous but all lives aren't equal are they. If you have a 90 year old man and a 3 month old baby both drowning then every single person would save the baby.
     
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    Never realised cancer was contagious.
     
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    cancer patients don’t spread it to other patients. The infectiousness is the problem. If you ‘let it rip’ they are quickly overwhelmed as Johnson found when he initially attempted herd immunity.
     
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    The problem you are not addressing is how the NHS can cope. Even if the virus continues at its current level of growth with a month the ICUs will be full so it’s difficult to know what to do on that basis alone. Even if you managed to find the 50k staff needed for the Nightingales at current growth rates wouldn’t buy you much time ( but there’s no magic nurse tree so that won’t happen anyway)

    The temptation for all of us is to look for easy answers. The Govt have mismanaged things to such an extent that there are no answers of any kind other than death by a 1000 lockdowns. Lockdowns are only valuable if you use the time they buy you. Last time they didn’t and there’s no indication they would this time.
     
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    I have a quick check and there is no evidence that a cure for a global pandemic will be found on a football forum.
     
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    It's not how many people will die that drives the need for a lockdown it's how many people need to be treated by the NHS in Hospitals. A full hospital is a full hospital so if you turn up at A&E after a car accident or a heart attack in need of life saving treatment but because we have an incompetent PM and government and a minority of the population either too stupid, stubborn, or self important to follow a few rules you'll die.
     
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    Are you alive...dior for men.
     

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