Never mind Corbyn's monumental error in playing down the report....

...a far more serious transgression has taken place. Apparently HE doesn't know how to wear a mask either. Funny how no one on here has any comment given how I have been lambasted on here ...selfish arrogant, idiotic for the same. I'll get my tin hat and flak jacket for this one...



Does anyone really believe the Labour Party is fit to govern any more than the Cons given the obvious divide has been fully exposed (again)?

 

Yes

 

You must have been on the Chianti, Tekkers!

 

A man suspended from the Labour Party not wearing a mask properly = Labour Party not fit to govern.



Get to bed and try again in the morning mate.

 

They're both not fit to govern, if that helps.

Been saying it for years.

We need a new system, a new way of evaluating what is in the country's best interests and how to achieve it. Which may not even require politicians.

We certainly don't need egotistical bluster as the criteria for getting pushed forward to supposedly represent and look after our interests.

Most of them are on the make. With no real values that they stick to, when it boils down to it.

We need to brainstorm another way. But they'll never let it happen. You'll never let it happen.

 

professional politicians are,nt worth a w**k, its party 1st, self 2nd, then last constituants. 95% of them have no idea how the real world works.................... but i've got a degree !!! yes in fine arts and that really doesnt qualify you to run the M.O.D. does it ? all it means is you know that el greco was greek, but you aint got a clue what a sanger or a shell scrape are

 

Party lines kills actual debate, free thought and getting stuff done.
Problem is only those with extreme wealth and status would run for independent positions.
Folk should be chosen at random 1000 mps all govern for a year. They must have a good background, either well educated or skilled in their line of work, clean criminal etc. Move the parliament to the centre of the UK, Barnsley and have flats built for them all which are within walking distance of their place of work. 70k a year and 50% of the year MPs can debate via Skype from their constituency location. Therefore more local engagement. The PM can have a helicopter to fly up once a week for PMQs and the rest of the day must be spent actually visiting real people, location selected at random. PM would be someone who's a leader their field, preferably from a law, science, education economics and business background. PM serves 3 years and all change. Voters would have a choice of PM, 10 candidates each election.

You'd still get Oxbridge types but they'd have to work with common folk to get things done.

My brain fart idea would never catch on.

Also TU laws strengthen to ensure maximum engagement with workers.

 

Are a sanger and a shell scrape background instruments used by Buddy Greco?

My dad (who played the Pontefract and District clubs as a pianist) used to go on about him

 

I think you're brainstorming along better lines than we have at the moment.

I mean - soul searching about socialist anti - semitism? Or even bothering to think about whether Boris has got anything right about this pandemic?

We have millions of souls in the country who would benefit from better leadership and a fairer distribution of what we've collectively built.

And i'm not a friggin socialist either.

 

A man who 90% of this forum voted for to run the country..... never mind covid 19 just glad we avoided corbyn 20

 

Aye thank God for Loris.

 

If Corbyn has not been wearing a mask in the 'proper' places then he is a nob for not wearing a mask. Simple. I've not read anything regarding that but as I say if he has done that he's a nob for doing it (and I'm a Corbyn fan). However, this really has nothing to do with governance if that's what you're suggesting

 

I'm quite happy to go on record saying that I think anyone who doesn't wear a mask properly is a bell-end for not doing so.

 

Jeremy Corbyn and antisemitism some facts 2019

1. In October 1936, Jeremy Corbyn’s mother participated in the battle of Cable Street in defence of British Jews after British fascists had staged an assault on the area. Corbyn was raised in a household passionately opposed to antisemitism in all its forms.

2. In 23rd April 1977, Corbyn organised a counter-demonstration to protect Wood Green from a neo-nazi march through the district. The area had a significant Jewish population.

3. On 7 November 1990, Corbyn signed a motion condemning the rise of antisemitism in the UK
4. In 2002 Jeremy Corbyn led a clean-up and vigil at Finsbury Park Synagogue which had been vandalised in an anti-Semitic attack

5. On 30 April 2002, Corbyn tabled a motion in the House of Commons condemning an anti-Semitic attack on a London Synagogue

6. On 26 November 2003, Jeremy Corbyn signed a Parliamentary motion condemning terrorist attacks on two synagogues

7. In February 2009, Jeremy Corbyn signed a parliamentary motion condemning a fascist for establishing a website to host antisemitic materials

8. On 24th March 2009, Corbyn signed a Parliamentary motion praising British Jews who resisted the Holocaust by risking their lives to save potential victims

9. Nine years ago, Corbyn signed a Parliamentary motion praising “Jewish News”for its pioneering investigation into the spread of Antisemitism on Facebook

10. On 9 February 2010, Corbyn signed a Parliamentary motion calling for an investigation into Facebook and its failure to prevent the spread of antisemitic materials on its site.

11. On 27 October 2010, Corbyn signed a Parliamentary motion praising the late Israeli Prime Minister for pursuing a two state solution to the Israel/Palestine question.

12. On 13 June 2012, Corbyn sponsored and signed a motion condemning the BBC for cutting a Jewish Community television programme from its schedule.

13. 1 October 2013, Corbyn appeared on the BBC to defend Ralph Miliband against vile antisemitic attacks by the UK press.

14. Five years ago Corbyn signed a Parliamentary motion condemning antisemitism in sport.

15. On 1 March 2013, Corbyn signed a Parliamentary motion condemning and expressing concern at growing levels of antisemitism in European football.

16. On 9 January 2014, Jeremy Corbyn signed a Parliamentary motion praising Holocaust education programmes that had taken 20,000 British students to Auschwitz.

17. On 22 June 2015, Corbyn signed a Parliamentary motion expressing concern at the neo-nazi march being planned for an area of London with a significant Jewish population.

18. On 9 October 2016, Corbyn, close to tears, commemorated the 1936 Battle of Cable Street and recalled the role his mother played in defending London’s Jewish community.

19. On 3 December 2016, Corbyn made a visit to Terezin Concentration Camp when Jewish people were murdered by the Nazis. It was Jeremy’s third visit to such a camp, all of which were largely unreported in the most read UK papers.

20. Last year, a widely-endorsed 2018 academic report found ninety-five serious reporting failures in the reporting of the Labour Antisemitism story with the worst offenders The Sun, the Mail & the BBC.

21. On 28 February 2016, five months after becoming leader, Jeremy Corbyn appointed Baroness Royall to investigate antisemitism at Oxford University Labour Club.

22. On 27 April 2016 Corbyn suspended an MP pending an investigation into antisemitism.

23. A day later, Corbyn suspended the three times Mayor of London after complaints of antisemitic comments. Party.

24. On 29 April 2016, Corbyn launched an inquiry into the prevalence of antisemitism in the Labour Party. In spite of later changes in how the inquiry was reported, it was initially praised by Jewish community organisations.

25. In Corbyn’s first seven months as leader of the Labour Party, just ten complaints were received about antisemitism. 90% of those were suspended from the Labour Party within 24 hours.

26. In September 2017, Corbyn backed a motion at Labour’s annual conference introducing a new set of rules regarding antisemitism.

27. In the six months that followed the introduction of the new code of conduct, to March 2018, 94% of the fifty-four people accused of antisemitism remained suspended or barred from Labour Party membership. Three of the fifty-four were exonerated.

28. When Jennie Formby became general secretary of the party last year, she appointed a highly-qualified in-house Counsel, as recommended in the Chakrabarti Report.
29. In 2018, Labour almost doubled the size of its staff team handling investigations and dispute processes.

30. Last year, to speed up the handling of antisemitism cases, smaller panels of 3-5 NEC members were established to enable cases to be heard more quickly.

31. Since 2018, every complaint made about antisemitism is allocated its own independent specialist barrister to ensure due process is followed.

32. The entire backlog of cases outstanding upon Jennie Formby becoming General Secretary of the Labour Party was cleared within 6 months of Jennie taking up her post.

33. Since September 2018, Labour has doubled the size of its National Constitutional Committee (NCC) – its senior disciplinary panel – from 11 to 25 members to enable it to process cases more quickly.

34. Under Formby and Labour’s left-run NEC, NCC arranged elections at short notice to ensure the NCC reached its new full capacity without delay.

35. Since later 2018, the NCC routinely convenes a greater number of hearing panels to allow cases to be heard and finalised without delay.

36. In 2018, the NEC established a ‘Procedures Working Group’ to lead reforms in the way disciplinary cases are handled.

37. The NEC adopted the IHRA working definition of antisemitism and all eleven examples of antisemitism attached to it.

38. A rule change agreed at Conference in 2018 means that all serious complaints, including antisemitism, are dealt with nationally to ensure consistency.

39. Last year, Jennie Formby wrote to the admins and moderators of Facebook groups about how they can effectively moderate online spaces and requested that any discriminatory content be reported to the Labour Party for investigation.

40. Since last year, no one outside Labour’s Governance and Legal Unit can be involved in decision-making on antisemitism investigations. This independence allows decisions free from political influence to be taken.

SOURCE CREDIT: This has been copy and pasted from a post made by @JacquelineChapman from Labour Support Group. All facts checked.

 

So you are happy to have the Tories screwing the Town? The Country would have been a much better place had he been elected in 2017.

 

Rather have neither tbh. If he had been elected he would have been suspended now and likely never to return to power.

 

Absolutely no problem with the critics of democracy getting off their fat arses and standing for election: local or national is fine.
But for fooks sake stop moaning And get in with it you keyboard warriors.

 

Boris Johnson literally wrote a novel featuring a character who checked a host of 'hilarious' anti-Semitic tropes and yet the Board of Deputies enthusiastically supported him. You're not wrong, but you'll never convince those that won't listen.

 

Yes he is a b*llend for not wearing his mask correctly and setting a bad example to people looking up to him.

You two have that in common.

 

Corbyn is clearly racist. Tsk...and I was naive enough to prefer him to Johnson at the last election. Shame on me