The three relegated teams will be from here, unless the Pigs get a massive points deduction. Charlton on 45 points need a win & a couple of draws to be safe. Boro have Warnock. Odds would probably say us, Luton & Hull for the drop, but there is a fight to be maintained. Huddersfield haven't really progressed under Cowley & neither Stoke under O'Neill as yet, they got a bounce but are now in shizzle county. We need a bit of luck & a stroke of genius from Struber. I think he's capable.
The reason not to get too disheartened after yesterday, which I thought was a solid point and performance, is that the fixtures for all the teams at the bottom see them playing each other. Obviously we need a positive result on Tuesday, but beating Stoke and Luton back to back could be game changing. We've clawed it back to four points. Let's hope we can put another dent in that gap on Tuesday, even if it's just to three points, and then tackle those three MASSIVE games in a row.
Yep. As I put in the other thread, I'd take a draw on Tuesday. The three games following it are much more important.
Forget it - Rotherham are coming up we usually replace each other! But one never knows with it not being a normal time.
Wigan are flying before and after lockdown.. After 27th june Wigan 2 - 0 blackburn 20th June Huddersfield 0 - 2 wigan Before March 7th Wigan 0 - 0 luton 29th feb West brom 0 - 1 wigan 26th feb Reading 0 - 3 wigan 22nd feb Wigan 1 - 0 millwall 15th feb Cardiff 2 - 2 wigan
We're doing well in the form table. Problem is that the teams that were around us I.e. Wigan, Charlton and Luton have been doing even better.
Its annoying isnt it - in around half the seasons something like 44 points is enough for safety and a few weeks ago it looked like that was going to be the case this season - now its looking like 50 and even that isnt guaranteed to be enough
Not making any predictions. I've seen enough of us since Struber came in to know that it's still in our hands even though there is a four point deficit. Struber has always remained calm. It's as if he and the players know something we don't.
It's still broadly in our own hands if we win on Tuesday and then play a run of games with the teams in an amongst us. Lose on Tuesday and we can almost chalk **** on it. We're going to need Cauley to step up and score a few because nobody else is looking like it and seven 0-0 draws isn't going to work.
Will feel better on Tuesday once we've hit the 40s! Since the restart we've gained 4 points on Huddersfield, 3 points on Hull and Stoke, 1 point on Boro, as we were with Luton Charlton have gained 2 points as have Wigan. I think they may be out of reach now. If I could choose Hull, Huddersfield and Stoke to go down.
so would I I think Wigan have gone - top of the form table since January and showing no signs of collapsing again Charlton are looking safe but need a couple more wins to be sure - I think they will get them but they did have a bad run when they didnt win for quite a few games - we can hope they do the same Still think its odds on us Luton and one from Hull/Huddersfield but hopefully both Hull and Hudds are down and we can finish above Stoke or Luton
I'd like a win against Blackburn and that takes the pressure off the three games against the teams round us. I'd hate those games to be all or nothing as the team have proven all season they bottle it.
See below what I posted in another thread the other evening. In 4 out of the previous 5 championship seasons a team would have needed just 41 or 42 points to finish 21st and survive when compared to the points total of the 22nd placed team. The only anomaly during that period is 2016/2017 when Forest stopped up on goal difference with 51 points. Certainly think this season it will take 50+ points to stop up with the current 21st placed team (Hull) on 42 points with 7 matches remaining. It also shows that's there's been some really poor teams in this division the last few seasons (us included under Morais) despite the money spent on transfers and wages. I really hope we stay up because next season I think we could flourish. A number of teams won't be spending anything like what they have over recent seasons. 2018/2019 21st Millwall 44 points 22nd Rotherham 40 points 2017/2018 21st Bolton 43 points 22nd Barnsley 41 points (Burton Albion also finished on 41 points). 2016/2017 21st Notts Forest 51 points 22nd Blackburn Rovers 51 points Forest stopped up on goal difference. 2015/2016 21st Rotherham United 49 points 22nd Charlton Athletic 40 points 2014/2015 21st Rotherham United 46 points 22nd Millwall 41 points
Depends how you look at it though to stay up Rotherham would have needed 45 points We would have needed 44 points Charlton would have needed 50 points Millwall would have needed 47 points It could easily be that safety is around 45 points if us Luton and Hull dont pick up many more points but for any of us to actually escape 50+ points will be needed. I cant see us staying up on less than 50 points. Hull or Huddersfield might though
