What intensive care actually means

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  1. Trickster Two Six

    Trickster Two Six Well-Known Member

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    I’ve a mate in Barnsley ICU in an induced coma on a ventilator two weeks after being sent home seemingly on the mend with some antibiotics and paracetamol. Last Monday he was taken back in having collapsed at home. Tuesday morning he was face-timing his missus, by Tuesday Lunchtime he’d dropped off a cliff and couldn't breath. This thing gets hold of some folk and just wont let go. Hoping for a positive outcome here.
     
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    Really sorry to hear that. Hope your mate pulls through.
     
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    Same here.
    This is a big reason why i'm kind of peed of with a few people on here at the minute.
     
  4. Trickster Two Six

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    Ta mate, everything crossed. Apparently he tried pulling some of his tubes out at weekend which we’re told is a good sign although I can’t see how, maybe they said that to counter our worries we thought it meant he was distressed, anyway whatever folk think of Boris he’s a dad, a son, a brother a human being and I’d be very upset at anyone who takes a pop at him during this time.
     
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    Hopefully because it shows he has a level of self awareness, strength and independence that demonstates he's on the mend. All the best to him and you, truly horrible times for a lot of people.
     
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    As one who questioned whether or not the disclosure that Boris had the Virus was fabricated and done for political gain and clearly I abhor his politics and those of the party he represents but at this time politics is secondary and I wish him a full and speedy recovery.
    Now is not the time to be taking cheap shots like " I hope he recovers as anyone is better than Raab" in my opinion and that comment is used by me as an example, not a dig at anyone on here.
    Good luck Boris!
     
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    Eyup pal, a think you’ve described same bloke I know who’s in too, really hope he pulls through
     
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    Some of the stories the missus has come back from the hospital with these last couple of weeks are bleak as ****.

    I genuinely have no idea how these people go into work every day facing up to this.

    I can’t for the life of me imagine how horrific it must be to be there dying without your family around you, and of something that a few weeks ago you might have scoffed at.

    I imagine the inability to go and be with a loved one in that situation is a hellish nightmare.

    Awful times.
     
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    All I know is that no one is moved into ICU to be monitored
     
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    Hi mate. I've no interest in scoring points. I disagree with you on a number of issues in the whole Covid-19 debate, specifically that a plan with no exit strategy is no plan at all (imho), and that I fear the route we have chosen will lead to more suffering and loss of life in the long run, but I don't have a good strategy myself that doesn't involve going back in time, investing properly in the NHS and its employees, and formulating a plan for when the inevitable epidemic surfaces, where everyone knows what to do. I do, however, appreciate that you (almost :)) always respond by sticking to the subject without being personal or abusive and will debate the issue. What we're doing might be the correct course of action, but it might not, and if debate is closed down, someone who might have a good strategy will never be heard.
     
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    Cheers mate.

    I don't disagree with you. I have no idea what the correct strategy is. I have my opinions that I hope are largely based on science and statistics. That's not to say that it's the right strategy, but I feel comfortable that my opinion is as informed as it can be in the circumstances. That's not to say that other opinions are not also informed. I agree that having no exit strategy is not a good plan, but I don't envy the people that would have to create the exit strategy dealing with an ever-changing problem. I don't even know for sure that going back in time and better funding the NHS would be a solution. Even a fully funded healthcare system would be overrun IMO. The thing that needed to happen is a proper track and trace of the virus with easy to use testing facilities.

    Ifs and Buts though I suppose.

    As I keep saying, there is no right answer, just a lot of solutions with more problems than solutions.
     
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    Oddly enough our next door neighbours work colleague (Morrisons) had the same thing. Recovered enough to go home, then 24 hrs later collapsed and was readmitted.
     
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    It’s strange how some people fight it off within days but others seem to get a double dose and become seriously ill. Thank goodness for the care and professionalism in our NHS working 12 hour shifts dealing with suffering and death every day must be truly awful.
     
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    Can you get it twice?
     
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    Check out Cameron Kyle-Sidell MD based in New York Twitter feed. He like other medical professionals believe Covid-19 symptoms are more like high altitude sickness than acute respiratory disease/virus. The body struggles to absorb oxygen.
     
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    I see what you did there :)
     
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    Just for context... I genuinely hope Boris recovers and wish him no ill will.

    But I posted the comment about Raab having just rewatched him describing a call for fair treatment for disabled benefit claimants as a 'childish wish list', I apologise to anyone who thinks I was making light of Boris' condition. I certainly wasn't - but I felt the need to highlight who is leading the country in his absence. IMHO in more enlightened times, we'd describe Raab's level of empathy as criminally insane.
     
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    I didn't believe we could find anyone less appropriate to run the country than Boris (to whom I wish all the very best as a human being, I just don't rate him as a politician) but it appears we have managed it.
     
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    An early study found roughly 15-20% of previously negative cases later test positive. Whether that was a false negative or genuine reinfection was unknown at the time.
     
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