Must be hard to monitor the career of a football manager without talking to him. I only know that Richie wellens is doing a decent job at Swindon because I called him up for a chat last night. There literally is no other way to know how his career is going.
I nearly put "chicken and egg" in my previous post. Let's face it, none of us know enough about the sequence of events, plus enough other facts.
But we do know enough to lack trust in our owners don't we? Best transfer window ever, record transfer fee, can't talk for legal erm sorry respect reasons etc
I doubt it was a conference call. Done under the radar, more than likely. There's no evidence that anyone else knew about it, or even that it was a regular occurrence. They simply kept tabs on Struber. Same as the player recruitment team will monitor potential new signings. I can't help feeling that people are looking at this through Stendel-coloured glasses.
That's a very simplistic take and you know it. I'm all for bashing the owners but this isn't a hill to die on for it. Like I said, this is your only take from this and you're grasping in my opinion. You've got people on this thread suggesting now that Stendel allegedly spoke to Huddersfield because he knew the owners were speaking to Struber. It's spiralled in to something it really wasn't from one paraphrased tweet.
That's the problem with meetings where the vast majority only get second hand information. When you have a two tier supporter system of in the know and knows nowt you get people with different opinions. Not a dig at the supporters trust because they can only do what they can do but I've been saying for years these meetings should be streamed so the majority can hear not the minority. It's no coincidence that those who attend the meetings generally favour the owners (and Patrick too) more than those who don't.
Is that not what the tweet means then? Approached before, kept in touch. Made the call after Daniel left and he came.
Fair enough I suppose. They made out though that Stendel was their man last season. If he wasnt and they wanted Gerard all along then I think it answers the question if he will.still be here next season no matter what.
What is two tier about a forum open to the public? We've talked about streaming but then you won't get some of the candid answers you hope to get. Cryne and Mansford both said that. You have to rely on more fans wanting to attend or being able to attend, but the reality is they can't and actually don't want to, despite how much they say in to a keyboard.
Nobody else was offered the job last season. I think it was commonly known that Darren Moore was the one they wanted initially right at the start of the process, but out of everyone interviewed Stendel was their man. Struber never had an interview.
Re the cult of Saint Daniel. I'd say there are very, VERY few really good managers past or present. The ones who can produce results beyond the supposed collective abilities of their players and then go and repeat the feat elsewhere. Mostly managers drop on the right group of players at the right time, achieve success and fail to do it again. I've nothing against Daniel Stendel but he certainly doesn't appear to be one of the few. He inherited a good squad of players and courted popularity at The Garrison which seems to have made him almost godlike in some eyes.
Staying in touch is not the same as regular contact though, is it? It could just mean they were connected on LinkedIn or something.
Yes a lot dont want to and a lot cant but does that mean they should be excluded from information? As I've said it isn't a criticism of the supporters trust at all. If the club says no streaming what can they do? Take the invited meeting for example though. There still hadn't been an actual report from it and the two BBS members who did go were poles apart on their take of what was said. Not sure what my point is there but it shows it isn't exactly ideal which I'm sure we all agree on. The problem is that nobody has found a good all round solution better than the current meetings. Personality I would say have them recorded and allow the club to cut out anything they want to.
Time will tell, I suppose. I can well understand the distrust towards the owners - in many ways they are their own worst enemies - but I just cant get excited about this one. The club has to be run on a business footing and this sounds like an example of them doing exactly that.
Again all I was saying was that I think it's a bit hypocritical and at the very least extremely interesting. That's fine, a lot of people are hypocrites when they have an interest.