O/t Caroline Flack

As you say she didn’t officially reign and it was only for this current season so no different to ant Mc P in that respect. They also offered her counselling

interesting that ole gunner solskjaer been getting stick this way for continuing to play a player at molde who was accused of rape. We have of course the Diaby situation here. Obviously we believe in innocent till proven guilty but I guess when it’s certain work situations you have to take people out till things are resolved

I agree the press shouldn’t report unless there is an arrest and charges made but once someone has been charged and has a court date I don’t think it’s realistic to say press shouldn’t report. I do however think there should be stronger enforced guidelines when often in these situations guilt is insinuated. Just basic known facts should be reported.

True, although would have been impossible to keep quiet. Guess you could say same about people like Barrymore or Prince Andrew too.

 

Re- Ant McPartlin. As you say BR ITV stuck by him. He was convicted of drink driving, causing
injury and a danger to life, by driving without due care and attention and also admitted "cheating " on his wife with her friend.

The media were not overtly critical saying his conduct was down to a medical condition and following his come back the great British Public have since voted to bestow upon him and his co-host DD a couple of major Film and TV industry
awards.

The difference between him and Caroline Flack of course, is that he is "box office" and she appeared not to figure very highly on their list of coveted " assets" that should be protected at all costs.

 

That's exactly it though. Even if guilt isn't insinuated, the 'court of public opinion' will assume guilt with stupid phrases like "There's no smoke without fire".

Look at people like Cliff Richard. Found innocent of all charges, but people still treat him with a stigma on social media. My point is that the press should never have been allowed to say anything. In fact, the press should never have been able to find out, but good luck on that one.

 

yes I agree

 

sincere condolences to the family and friends of Caroline Flack

 

This post is spot on, I can't stand Ant and Dec but to do what he did and get the full backing of ITV and be allowed to return to prime time TV is absolutelly disgraceful. The sooner we're rid of those two the better.

 

That's not really fair. ITV treated Ant and Caroline exactly the same following their arrests. Both stepped down from their hosting duties and were replaced.

How do you or anyone know what ITV's long term plans were for her after her court case? I haven't seen any statement saying she would not be allowed to work for itv ever again. Let's remember that Ant wasn't on itv for over a year. Caroline at the time of her death had been off itv for less than two months.

Also the media absolutely laid into Ant with constant interviews with the victim and using headlines calling him a maniac, running regular stories saying that he was ruining his wife's life, calling him a bully, there were stories criticising him for going on holiday after his crash and for eating pizza following it. Stories saying that Dec was better without him etc. He lost millions of pounds worth of advertising and sponsorship.

The way itv treated both stars in the wake of their arrests has been identical

 

Funny how the same people who are now protesting loudly about the tabloids' treatment of Caroline Flack were quite happy to read, spout and share when they were doing the same thing to Jeremy Corbyn. This is not journalism, it is poison. Fcucking travesty.

 

If she was found guilty then she was finished, no doubt about that IMO (it seems there was very strong evidence to suggest she was guilty despite her fella denying what happened and refusing to press charges). Ant could have killed young children but was somehow allowed back on prime time TV despite being convicted. Ultimately we will never know the outcome due to the very tragic circumstances but I can't help but feel a guilty verdict for her would have led to a different set of circumstances.

 

You are just guessing though, there's no evidence at all to suggest that what you say is true. You can't slag off itv for double standards based on a guess, that's not fair.

 

Good post alot of truth in that imo. Very sad that she felt the only way was to end it such a waste at only 40 years old.

 

Fair enough fella, I did say it was all IMO. The bottom line is we will never know the outcome from the trial and or her employer etc. There are no winners here, just hope lessons can be learned from all sides moving forward.

 

The subtle difference between the two is that Caroline Fleck was suspended from her job as presenter of
" Love Island", whereas Mc Partlin volunteered to step down to enable him to enter re-hab. His job as co-presenter
alongside DD was never under threat, whereas speculation was that if Ms Flack had been found guilty like McPartlin
her career was possibly over. With yesterday's sad event we will not now never know of course.


https://www.theguardian.com/media/2...-death-turns-spotlight-on-tabloids-once-again

 

Article about McPartlin and his stint in re-hab and Simon Cowell giving him the thumbs up
to return to his job on TV. It's all about opinions of course. For what it's worth, mine is after
causing the injuries he did and publicly humiliating his former wife, the last thing that should
happen is that he be put forward for any awards.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowb...rehab-itv-prescription-drugs-addicted-latest/

 

Caroline Flack also resigned. That's what I meant when I said that officially she resigned. Don't know what went off behind the scenes preceding the resignation.

 

Extremely tragic. Even more so when her boyfriend has said that he feels he could have talked her down, had he been there with her, as he has done so in the past, but one of the conditions of her bail was that she could have no contact with him, despite him repeatedly asking to see her.

Not saying that clause shouldn't have been in, but imagine what he is currently feeling.

 

Dan Wooton says in the article in the Guardian ( third paragraph after the last photo) "she was hung
out to dry by ITV for not standing by her and that she was distraught. " That's what I based my comments on.

Whereas the media, ITV, Cowell seemed sympathetic to Ant McPartlin.
Wooton is the Executive Editor of the Sun and I've never seen anything to prove what he's saying is incorrect.

 

ITV themselves stated back in December that they'd offered her therapy to help her get through it and Caroline herself said that she had chosen to stand down herself.

Dan wootton is biased in that Caroline used to give him a lot of exclusives for a decade which made him a fair bit of money. He had financial reasons for buttering her up

 

I remember her turning down the offer of " aftercare". We are never going to get to the facts given the number
of contradictory statements out there. The December article in the Metro infers that she was forced to walk away from "Love Island " and she accused ITV of " crazy double standards", presumably as a result of how they treated Ant McPartlin as opposed to herself. As I've said before, it's now very unlikely that we will ever get the actual truth, it appears that everybody who played a part in this unfortunate tradegy, now seem to be blaming someone else.

https://metro.co.uk/2019/12/20/caro...rcare-itv-double-standards-backlash-11937850/