O/t Caroline Flack

yup. Many victims of abuse don’t realise they are victims or can be threatened or manipulated out of pressing charges so in my opinion it’s right the cps have power in these situations. Of course she would have had her day in court to defend herself. Tragic that she will never get that chance.

 

From what I understand he never wanted to press charges but there must have been some very strong evidence for the CPS to take the case to court. I also understand one of her exes has said she was abusive. What's happened is absolutely tragic but as Supertyke said, perhaps anonymity for the accused until a case is heard in court may be the way to to go.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.da...res-lengthy-Instagram-post-year-recovery.html

 

Domestic abuse is always wrong but media abuse is wrong too and when it is brutal enough to push someone to suicide then it is out of control. Media sensationalism, shoddy journalism and the partisan control of media outlets is the cause of some huge problems in the world and it is getting worse.

 

Poor tormented soul, RIP Flackers.

 

we don’t know the reasons why she did what she did. I see a Sun journalist on twitter getting hundreds of tweets saying he’s a murderer and has blood on his hands. If in guilt he decided to end it all no doubt people would be commenting on him saying “people should have been kinder” etc The press are horrible there is no doubt, anything to sell a paper or get a click but blaming people for this tragedy is not the answer. As far as I can see this is a mental health issue. Someone with these issues should not have been in the public spotlight.

 

History is littered with people killing themselves rather than go to court for serious crimes. Especially when they know they're guilty. For all we know it could be as simple as that.

Or that she was alone on valentine's Day while her partner was holidaying without her

Her agents have actually blamed the cps for her death saying them proceeding with the case has caused this. That's bang out of order imo, you can't blame the cos for prosecuting someone

 

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The idea is good but it's the wrong person who's started it. I could be wrong but I don't think she was a mate of Caroline. It should be one of her family or close mates doing this if that's what they want to do. She says the press drove her to drink but even before all her post Celebrity Big Brother drama that lead her down a dark path she was already known for her drinking.....

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/stephanie-davis-sacked-hollyoaks-after-6091196

Also the press she wants to silence had been her only income pretty much from appearing on CBB to getting back her Hollyoaks job as she sold a load of stories for money to TV shows, newspapers and magazines because her line of work as an actress wouldn't touch her.

 

Agreed. Who knows what was going through her head in those final few moments. Just awful. But her agents and others blaming the CPS is putting domestic abuse discussions back years.

 

It’s The Sun who are largely to blame, they’ve harassed her for months, they’ve even posted a valentines card with her face on with the caption ending something along the lines of ‘or I’ll lamp you’. They’ve been deleting nasty articles going back months.

Any form of abuse is wrong but a few tits with barely any followers probably hiding behind an anonymous username don’t have anywhere near the effect of a national newspaper going after you. Their daily reach goes into the millions with paper copies & online views & it influences people’s views.

It won’t stop until people stop buying it, don’t click the links & go on their website, don’t follow anyone who writes for them etc.

 

Do you have absolutely no self awareness? You start the thread complaining about press hounding people and then a couple of pages later are linking to the gossip pages of the gutter press reporting on someone's troubles.

At the end of the day the press do it because people read it. You can't gleefully hoover up all the salacious stories and then say they've got blood on their hands when there are tragic consequences. If they do then so do you.

 

Its an awful thing to happen, but blaming the media on this occasion doesn't tell the full story.
She has courted media attention all her life so you can't expect the tap to just turn off when it doesn't suit.
Regarding the assault although the boyfriend didn't want to prosecute, the evidence was there that she did it, 999 call, facial injuries etc.
The prosecution services are getting blame too for proceeding, but what if the boot had been on the other foot and a woman had suffered and then withdrawn charges, the would have been calls that she had been intimidated or coerced into withdrawing. Apparently blokes being victims of domestic violence is rife.
The real tragedy is that there were signs of her being unbalanced for years, surely somebody from the family or a good friend should have picked up on it and got her proper counselling before it got anywhere near as bad as it did.
As I say its an awful thing to happen to anybody and nobody deserves to feel that bad that they have to take their own life but...

 

I believe its more of a social media abuse issue than just a mental health problem. I wonder who will be the first footballer to committ suicide due to social media abuse pushing someone in a high pressured profession over the edge.

 

I saw a post on FB earlier that showed a tweet of hers saying about being able to talk to someone and when she tried she was told to grow up or get on with it, can’t recall the exact words but it basically alluded to trying to talk to someone.

it’s a tragic incident, CPS should t be blamed if there was enough evidence she should have been charged, press can’t comment as don’t really follow this type of press but my recollection is it would have been a lot louder if she had been male assaulting a female(but could be totally wrong).

 

That articles a load of sh*te mate, she wasn't a reality TV star she was the presenter, she'd done loads before she was picked to be the presenter of Love Island so for them to say its this sudden rush of publicity is moving the goalposts to suit their agendas.

 

You are right but the article wasnt really much to do with the point I was making, more to do with social medie abuse affecting vulnerable people or on people working in high presure industries.

 

Her post was on Instagram and said that when she had tried talking to someone she had been told she was "draining". I can't remember who it was that it was aimed at but that person - a friend I think - did reply (can't find it now) saying that it's because she would constantly tell her about her problems but refused to get professional help for it.
That's a tough one too because we all need to be there for our friends and family but what about when it gets to the point that you can't take it anymore and it's now having an affect on YOUR mental well-being? Again I don't know what the answer is here either. Is it your duty to keep listening despite the effect it has on you? Or should you be honest and tell them?

 

It is very draining if someone won't accept help. As for social media, there is the option not to post, to ignore. I dont think it's as simple as it first appears, things rarely are

 

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Brilliant post.

 

Just saw someone repost it on FB.
Difficult to answer really interms of duty cos damned if do and damned if don’t.
Point I was making was she felt right or wrong she had no one to talk to and I would have thought that would have more effect than CPS deciding there was enough evidence(although that might have been final straw).
Famous or not it’s a tragedy for anyone to take their life and the message that should come from this is people pushing the importance to find someone to talk instead of trying to blame organisations.

 

I agree, the CPS should 100% have proceeded with pressing charges.

ITV stuck by Ant McPartlin when he was not only accused, but convicted of just as serious, if not more so, crimes. I don't know how ITV acted in the Flack situation. I know 'officially' she resigned, but if it was a case of jumped before she was pushed, that does show double standards.

The press should not be allowed to report on any accusation that's not a conviction. full stop.

Social media should never have found out about it. That only happened because of the press reporting it.

I agree with this. I'm not trying to point fingers. The press should be more responsible though. and if they can't be, there should be laws forcing them to be.