O/t Caroline Flack

It's a tough one because it's absolutely awful that she appears to have taken her own life but she was charged with physically assaulting her partner in quite an horrendous way. Are you suggesting that shouldn't have been discussed at the time? I don't know the answer myself, I do know that people's reaction to this has been completely different to the reaction when a male has committed suicide whilst awaiting trial for crimes though.

It is still horrible though and perhaps should serve to remind everyone of their thoughts and comments when for other people have been and are arrested for crimes

 

It's incredibly sad, but at the same time it's utter **** to say anyone who made a negative comment about her has blood on their hands.

 

That's so sad and shocking.

 

Having first hand experience of this I think domestic abuse from women to men does need to be talked about. That doesn't mean hounding a person when they haven't even been tried yet though.

 

No it doesn't but I think that means more that we need to allow more anonymity for people charged with but not yet convicted of all crimes. You won't stop people from commenting but you can at least stop the media from doing so.

 

You haven't been duffing blokes in Helen have you????
Joking aside it's shocking and upsetting what's happened.

 

Why?

RIP X

 

I have read that she had just learned that the CPS were proceeding with the case against her for assaulting her boyfriend

 

40 year old.........why??? Absolutely done me that

 

Already a thread on this from earlier, may answer you questions

http://barnsleyfc.org.uk/threads/o-t-caroline-flack.288764/

 

Looks like her boyfriend backtracked on his earlier claim that Caroline had hit him
with a table lamp, but the powers that be , were determined to proceed with her trial.

Sounds as though she was in a fragile mental state as it was and was probably fearing
the worst regarding any possible sentence. So sad that she wasn't able to convey how she was
really feeling to those close to her. A waste of the life of a vibrant young woman, who to
all intents, on the surface had everything to live for.


https://metro.co.uk/2019/12/23/caro...earful-court-hearing-assault-charge-11953311/

 

Thing is, so many victims of domestic abuse dont go through with it that the decision has been taken out of their hands. He made a 999 call, was injured and there is evidence of the way she spoke to him.

 

In my opinion, the media shouldn't be allowed to name any person accused of a crime, but not convicted. The court of public opinion is too much for a lot of people.

The old phrase "There's no smoke without fire" needs to be done away with, as well. It's a very dangerous phrase and is just completely untrue.

This is not in relation to this case at all, just a generalised comment.

 

Did you hear the 999 call from her boyfriend, domestic abuse is always wrong I’m afraid.

 

There are very strict rules about what the press can say in relation to a person's alleged involvement in a crime for which they have been charged under sub judiciary rules. No such restriction is possible on social media which is just a free for all for know nowt gobshites to tell the world their uninformed opinion and present it as fact.

I wish social media could be uninvented. It really is a curse on modern life.

In the meantime, I sure am glad that as far as the world is concerned, I am an anonymous nobody. Long may it stay that way.

 

i hope she would have defended a bloke who was up in court for domestic abuse...

 

Social media only finds out about it because of the media reporting it.

The media should not be allowed to report on anybody being accused of a crime. In this case, it was all over the news. So if think there are very strict rules, they need to be stricter. A lot stricter.

As far as I know, the media are allowed to report on it, all they have to do is to make it clear that the person has not been convicted. The problem is that in this day and age people ignore that and assume people accused are guilty and post about that on social media.

 

I think it says more about the cult of "celebrity" than anything else. It's tragic, no doubt. My family has also felt the cold hand of suicide and it is a certain kind of grief beyond anything else. My thoughts are with her family
BUT....Did anybody else watch the Barrymore documentary last week? The celeb machine is a money making monster. It's awful. Watch the News of the World reporter.I actually admired his honesty when he came across as a total scumbag. Why? Cos I said to my Mrs afterwards if there was no demand for their crap, muck raking personailty assasinations, they wouldn't exist. Unfortunately, we watch the reality shows, follow all these non-entities on social media, become jealous of their wealth and profile and then take pleasure when they self combust as a re-affirmation of the value of the boring lives normal people lead.
I hate BGT, don't watch it. But I remember an episode being on in the kitchen when i was cooking tea about ten years ago. Cheryl broke down in tears when a guy turned up who'd been on the same show she'd won and was still trying to make it. The implication...you're life's not worth living if you're not famous. That's what's done for Caroline Flack and it's an abomination

 

It is. She wasnt m

I agree, it is trivalising domestic abuse. He made a 999 call. While I think talking about suicide is important, it is also important to enable people to recognise abusive situations. I'll be honest, it is one thing I worry about for my children as it is more common than many realise. Sonething like 2 deaths a day due to domestic abuse, plus untold mental and physical suffering.

 

this is obviously a very very tragic and awful situation. Suicide always leaves people feeling numb and angry and leaves a lot of questions. It’s natural to look for someone to blame. But I don’t think there are easy answers here.

She was arrested and charged with a very serious assault. In my opinion if the CPS felt they had evidence they were within their rights to press charges regardless of the boyfriend wanting them to or not. The law is now quite rightly in the favour of the alleged victim and to say that she shouldn’t have faced court just because her partner had changed his find is to misunderstand the nature of abuse

likewise I can’t see how ITV could have acted any differently. If she had been found innocent she should have been able to carry on her career but she couldn’t have continued to host a tv programme until these charges were dealt with one way or the other

the press - we know there are some disgusting members of the press. The sensationalistic headlines and voureristic tendencies are going terrible but If anyone in the public eye is arrested for serious domestic abuse you can’t expect these things to not be reported on and you would expect most of the reports to be negative concerning the alleged abuser

social media we know there are trolls and people say horrible things but it gives people the right to their opinion. People have strong opinions on abuse and understandably are not sympathetic towards the abuser

hindsight is a wonderful thing. Maybe we should all reflect a little, even the bbs when we attack players, owners and coaches. However I believe in free speech and anyone blaming the press or social media or the cps or itv is trying to find an easy answer to something that is complicated

this was obviously a tormented young woman who struggled with mental health who did something wrong and couldn’t live with the consequences. Very very sad. Instead of pointing fingers, let’s just hug each other a bit tighter, talk a little more openly and be willing to ask for help if we need it.