Watford Goal

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  1. Fon

    Fonzie Well-Known Member

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    Looked awfully familiar.

    Playing out from the back simply doesn't work, unless you're Man City or Liverpool.
     
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    The thing that everyone is missing though is they do it to create space in midfield and to stop it being overly congested. I just think we need to be smarter at it and longer terms get at least one CH who can pass it.

    If we stopped doing it, we wouldn’t score half the goals we do, and let’s be honest we’re doing well of late.
     
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    Fonzie Well-Known Member

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    I understand the principal of it - you try to tempt the opposition into pressing too high and then aim to exploit the space behind them

    But only a small number of blokes are good enough to do that on this planet, and neither of them are our two centre halves.
     
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    It’s working as it should though at the moment. We’re scoring more than the opposition. We are going to have hair raising moments but until we get a CH or 2 who can do it, it’s going to happen.

    I don’t think we should abandon it and smash it up the park. We’d never score a goal and the CHs would still be giving chances away in open play anyway.
     
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    You would think that every goal we conceded came as a result of trying to pass it out from the back, yet the last goal to be scored from such an error was versus Reading and that was our goal. If we have conceded in such a fashion since then I can’t recall it
     
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    If passing out from the back is what Struber wants then it’s good enough for me.
     
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    Fonzie Well-Known Member

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    Best move along then. Nothing to see here. Absolutely nothing bad happens to us from playing out from the back.
     
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    Correct, as Mr Nutkins has explained above.
     
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    We’ve had some ‘squeaky bum’ moments from both the cbs and ridden our luck, but cringe worthy that they are we have not conceded a shed load from such incidents
     
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    Horses for courses though isn't it. If you've got players who are comfortable passing from the back it's a great tactic. In Radlinger, Diaby and Andersen we have three players who present an opportunity to the opposition twice each every game. It's killing us.

    Gerry Taggart is one of the best centre halves I've seen play for us. But if we'd passed him the ball on the six yarder at every goal kick he would have cost us half a dozen goals per game.

    We're fitting players into a rigid system instead of assessing what we've got and adapting the preferred system to suit. Actually, that's only half true. Struber is getting the very best out of Brown and Chaplin. But Diaby and Andersen are woefully exposed every game. Hence we look good going forward and w*nk in defence.
     
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    I have no problem with the CBS being where they are to stretch out play - just don’t pass it to them! Unless the opposition ignores them & goes to the halfway line. Just stop doing it!
     
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    The CBs are ok with it. Not great, but ok. And they're both getting better. The biggest problems arise when they can't find a pass and play it back to Radlinger, who then miskicks it to the opposition midway in our own half.
     
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    We are winning mate. I’m comfortable with the tactic. It’s definitely risk reward.
     
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    To be fair Bournemouth haven’t done bad in recent seasons playing from the back , even Man City get caught now and again .For us it makes for a nerve racking match but we are winning
     
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    Considering how poor we supposedly looked in defence I don't recall Huddersfield having a real shot on target as the Radlinger save was going wide. Our midfield are getting better at creating the space needed, but currently our defenders see way too much of the ball and by the law of averages when that happens mistakes are more likely. The decision making needs to get better that's for certain.

    Even last season we gave away chances, which is way Davies got himself in to the team of the year (plus the woeful level of League One finishing as a whole). Teams will always concede chances, especially with our standing in the Championship, it's just a case of how many and whether you get punished for them.
     
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    I can think of at least one unless hitting the back of the net doesnt count - according to the official stats both teams had 2 shots on target but I dont remember the second one for Huddersfield either - they didnt create any real chances of their own though we did put them in a couple of times messing about at the back and Diaby almost got sent off due to some similar shenanigans

    I fully support playing it out from the back when its safe to do so but when the opposition are making a high press and have men on our defenders which happened a few times on Saturday it really doesnt make much sense - there are times when it is better to just fight for the ball in the opposition half
     
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    The goal and the Radlinger 'save' I mention are probably the two shots on target being classed in the stats. Both keepers were very quiet at the weekend, but still a couple of hand on heart moments for each.
     
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    And now Middlesborough
     
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    I think you're vastly underestimating the profligacy of our opponents in recent games. We present them with at least half a dozen chances every game. It's got no better as the season has progressed, we've just been fortunate that they've been so wasteful recently. It won't continue. Our sloppy play will, it hasn't been addressed, but us keeping the score down cannot continue while we persist with our current tactics.
     

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