Duckinfield Not Guilty

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  1. Tykeored

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    In the examples you quote the inquest would return verdicts of accidental deaths, however the Hillsborough inquest gave a verdict of unlawful killing which means someone was criminally responsible for those deaths.
    The stench of a cover up still lingers over the whole issue.
     
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    I think it was a cocktail of bad decisions, unwise choices and blind complacency over a number of years by numerous people. Football in general had been getting away with herding people like cattle for decades.
     
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    My personal opinion is this is the wrong verdict. However, there would be nothing to be gained from convicting an old frail man. And I believe those who put him in the position in the first place are just as culpable.

    I'm not going to read this thread as I already know lies that have have long since been proven as such will be repeated as fact.

    It's a stain on me and the culture I'm from that I'll never wash off.
     
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    I followed it quite closely and was not at all surprised by the verdict.
    All verdicts must be accepted as they are the culmination of due judicial process in the determination of criminal culpability.
    The jury heard the evidence and competing submissions from counsel which they will have considered upon deciding the facts along with the legal directions provided by the trial judge.
    It’s how we do it and in my view is without doubt the fairest way of trying criminal cases.
     
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    For those of us watching this debacle it seems only logical that .....

    Sheffield Wednesday are RESPONSIBLE for having a poorly designed ground - that they were warned about.

    The police are RESPONSIBLE for not being in control of the situation.

    The Liverpool supporters arriving late and pushing to get in through an open gate are RESPONSIBLE.

    The only people NOT RESPONSIBLE are the poor Liverpool supporters that got there on time.
     
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    He’s guilty as sin and He knows it what a weight to bear
     
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    And the deaths have already been found to be unlawful, so who was to blame- as it wasn’t an accident.
     
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    But you fail to also note the further comment by the [then] Home Secretary:

    "However, the jury’s findings do not, of course, amount to a finding of criminal liability, and no one should impute criminal liability to anyone while the ongoing investigations are still pending."

    The question of criminal liability was for the Crown Court, which has now reached a verdict across the course of two trials.
     
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    What about the FA for allowing the tie to go ahead despite issues raised over safety previously?
    And the Police for putting the Liverpool fans at that end of the ground when the other end was more capable for handling the expected influx of Liverpool fans as seen and done in previous years but chose that end as it was easier for them to manage the fans coming to the ground.
     
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    Part of my job is in a safety critical role whereby if I don’t follow procedure and decide that I know best then either one of my team or myself may die or be seriously injured at work. If this were to happen, I would definitely go to prison.
    Enjoy your pension Duckenfield.
     
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    The front page of the Sun today is an absolute disgrace.
     
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    It seems inconceivable that the only person with any responsibility is the little safety officer .
     
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    Surely this disaster would not have occurred but for the security fencing installed around pitches. An ill considered measure and 'puzzling' that whilst years have passed seeking people to blame, it quietly disappeared without comment.
     
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