Do not play like you did tonight then lay down on the pitch after at the final Whistle with your head in your hands on Saturday. I won't accept it and neither will thousands of others.
I’ve lost my patience with it tonight, at the start of the losing streak I was upset like I normally get when we lose, then I started with the apathy further into the run, when we equalised on Saturday with 10 minutes to go and then managed to lose it with 5 minutes to go, I just smirked and thought ‘yup, about right for us that’. Tonight I’m fuming, what a complete and utter **** up of a job this is.
I wasn't there tonight so can't comment specifically. But in general, I don't think this season's debacle is the players' fault. Well, I suppose it is in a way, as they're the ones making the mistakes, but there's more to it than that. I've been trying to decide where the blame lies, but I can't quite put my finger on it.
I don't care about whether there was a lack of effort or not. And no, I don't blame the players for the way the season has panned out. But tonight's performance wasn't good enough, effort or not. If all I put in at work was effort, with no actual skill, I'd be out of a job. Eventually, however old they are, they have to take some responsibility. And all I'm asking for here is that they don't feel sorry for themselves, they don't lay down and put their heads in their hands, they accept some responsibility. They weren't unlucky tonight, they weren't good enough, and they need to start addressing that. If they don't, I'm going to stop blaming the board and start blaming them, because at present I don't believe they've got any professionalism or any pride. And it's beginning to p*ss me off.
I do, I’m guessing we will have different opinions on this. Throughout the majority of this season I can’t fault the effort, it’s the ability they have which has been the problem. No fault of theirs mind, they’ve mostly given their all. but tonight I don’t feel there were the effort of previous defeats, just didn’t have no urgency or heart it seemed from me. Prime example was the lump up field in injury time to see only Schmidt in their half. Those defeats hurt more than others.
Virtually everything was rubbish about tonight , the weather, the state of the pitch , both sides , the ref and the goal that decided it . Only thing that wasn't rubbish was our support , well done to everyone who went ,we could hear the singing on the telly
Yes i noticed that , also it took Woodrow to get back and take the back off Asumbalumpa on our corner flag! Everyone else have something better to do?
You can take a player to task for not performing to his best, but not for not generally being good enough. And in any game everyone - fan, coach and player ought to be caring about the level of effort. It's easier to just conclude that they ought not to be playing for us i.e. they ought to be out of a job. Cos they aren't good enough. We're all pissed off.
I've felt that way in many games this season. Tonight I don't think they left everything out there on the pitch. I don't believe they acted professionally. I think they just feel sorry for themselves.
Yeah how annoying was that? Cauley annoyed me all night, I'm going to contradict myself a little here. But as a striker when were losing I don't want him dropping deep into our half, I want him on the last man and causing some havoc to their back line. We were desperate for an effort on their keeper never mind a goal. When he's having to drop deep to our own corner flag to win back the ball in the dying seconds it just sums up the incompetence of our defence. I appreciate the non stop running and wanting to be involved in all phases of play from Cauley but when we need a goal I don't think that's what a lone striker should be doing! Aside my personal annoyance he did put a shift in so for that he can hold his head high, alongside Ben Williams and Big Sammy. All the other need a kick up the a$$ and show some fight. Go again Saturday!
They probably do feel sorry for themselves. Mowatt and Woodrow because they are surrounded by inferior teammates. The new signings because they have jumped at the chance to play championship football but aren't good enough (yet) and are in a team full of players who aren't good enough. They are in real terms all on extremely good money. They are playing a game for a living, doing something I imagine most of them love, very lucky young men. However they are only human, over the course of 46 games in a season as poor as this one is looking like it's going to be, we are going to have the full range. They have generally been giving everything and still losing on a regular basis. That will take its toll on the players mentally.
The only decent performance we've had on a midweek night game for the last few seasons was home to Sunderland. Even during our 'perfect' last season we failed miserably midweek - in fact I don't have the numbers in front of me - but I'll bet if we'd played Saturdays with the same results as midweek we'd have been relegated - likewise if our midweek form had matched Saturdays' we'd have won the league easily. I'm tempted to suggest there's something very wrong with our midweek game prep.
How can anyone not see how Cavare responded to losing the ball leading to the goal and then not question his effort? He lost the ball and then literally jogged back while his man ran away from him probably laughing.
For God's sake man! Don't make posts like that...Americans struggle with sarcasm and may think your 'indecision' lets 'em of the hook'
********. They don’t lack professionalism or pride. I’ve never seen anyone not trying (well, maybe Mr Cavare). Nobody giving up, refusing to play. They don’t lack those things at all. They lack ability, experience, a proper leader and know-how. I won’t blame any of the players. I’ll criticise them - critique when a player plays badly is right in my view - but the overall blame won’t be shifted on to them. It isn’t their fault a championship club bought and plays them when they aren’t good enough. The new manager will try to make sure the players are blamed before he is, and to be fair it isn’t really his fault either. But blame shifting will be the only way to keep his job as he’s got no chance of getting enough results. That is nigh-on impossible. But his hardest job is convincing the fan base that the car crash we see in front of us isn’t the fault of his paymasters, not him either, but the players. I really hope there aren’t too many drawn into that. A lot of this team wouldn’t play week in week out in league one never mind at this level. I also won’t blame Alex Mowatt or Cauley Woodrow if they formally request a transfer. I also won’t say ‘they wanted to go so there’s nothing we could do’. This season is done. What the squad looks like on 1st February will dictate partly how we go next season - but mainly it will decide how many people renew their season passes. At this moment I’d sooner shave my nads with a rusty meat cleaver. I love this football club and it will break my heart to withdraw support but it is the only thing I have in my power to convince these muppets to go and ruin someone else’s club and leave us alone. If, as I suspect they will, they cash in on the above named assets and maybe others, and replace in the manner all those who left in summer were, I think we will be looking at 7-8000 gates in league one, and a lower mid table finish in 20/21 - if we are lucky. The hope then is that the reduced income forces them to cut their losses and fc uk right off.
You’ve got to remember that these players will be mentally gone now too after the horrendous start to the season, which we all agree isn’t really their fault.
