Rachel Riley

So you do condone it then.

No problems.

 

As much as Oxford is derided for its PPE, Classics and History graduates, you don't get a 2i in Maths from Oxford without being good with numbers (although University maths doesn't include much in the way of numbers).

 

Consonant. Vowel. Consonant. Consonant.

Saw this on twitter and found it fitting and amusing.

 

…….erm....

Pass ;-)

 

At what juncture did i suggest I condoned anything?

 

Nahh

 

He never replies to any of my rebuttals of his comments, I expect no different on this occasion.

 

Yes, She believes what she believes based on the research of the subject and her own experiences after speaking out, I believe what I believe after my research of the subject and listening to the experiences of people who have spoken out. Watcher and the rest believe what you believe based in your research. Doesn’t excuse the abuse she’s had because she doesn't believe what the corbynites do. I’m very surprised that if there was no case to answer she hasn’t had JC’s lawyers at the door. I wonder what’s stopping him

 

I just presumed with your deflection and lack of answering the question.

 

I was just adding context to that photo.

 

No you weren't Deetee you were dodging the question and still are.

 

What is there to condone? Someone who has questioned Corbyns views towards those of a Jewish faith and has subsequently and continues to receive threats of violence, misogynistic and racial abuse from supporters of the same. Even within this thread there is reference to her having to handle the abuse that comes here way... Kinder Gentler Politics and all that..

The T shirt while not in the best of taste is using one of the more iconic images of Corbyn to voice her opinion that Corbyn is racist. Is she entitled to do so? Absolutely. She can voice her opinion however she sees fit.

Regardless of the original message the placard portrayed.

 

He questions Israel's policy towards Palestine, who wouldn't? Never met anyone who has said anything about Jewish people except when we plays Spurs!!

 

Don't know about that but she does look like she's giving old Jerry a hand job.

 

After reading this thread and your comments I think you are confusing several issues and deliberately refusing to acknowledge factual information. The initial post was referring to Ms Riley's 'fake' picture. It WAS fake. I'm sure you can agree with that. If you do agree with that then regardless of what views you have about Riley's distaste for Corbyn then you must surely also admit that she was stupid/deliberately misleading/vitriolic (pick one or more). If she was stupid then we can't believe her, if she's deliberately misleading we can't believe anything she says and if she simply wants to inject vitriolic poison against Corbyn she is just as bad as she makes him out to be. Her Jewish background is not an issue here. She is simply wrong and if you have any commonsense you must see that.
As to your other comments... the use of 'dear leader' to describe Corbyn is infantile, your use of the phrase 'brownshirts of momentum' is insulting if meant to be a historical parallel and your comments about believing what you want to believe when asked to comment on another poster's documented comments about Corbyn's pro-Jewish history is simply you sticking your head in the sand.
We all have faults and we all have views but if you dislike Corbyn so much that you twist the actions of Riley into an attack on Corbyn and then simply pass off information which suggests Corbyn, perhaps, may not be antisemitic at all then maybe it is time for you to rethink what sort of comments you post.

 

Whilst she’s perfectly entitled to voice her opinion of JC, I wonder why she chooses to slur him despite plenty of conflicting evidence and chooses to ignore the racism that runs rife through the Tory party where the evidence is much less conflicting.

Like Trixie who only has eyes for issues within the Labour Party, I can’t take seriously anyone who pretends to be outraged at Labour anti-semitism whilst ignoring the rampant Islamophobia in the Tory party.

 

What’s that got to do with it, their main fan base is down there

 

Not just Islamophobia either.

 

Aesthetically pleasing but that's all you say about her, was never taken in by the cow.

 

As an aside I am involved with the Jewish community and an historical group relating to a memorial we are trying to include within a wider project of mine. The history group posted a podcast telling the Jewish history relating to the area and it immediately attracted some horrendous anti-semitic comments online. Having investigated we have managed to trace most of it to America, where the link was posted on a fascist 4Chan message group encouraging people to post anti-semitic abuse.

That experience made me reflect on two things; firstly how difficult it is to police social media and at face value determine where it has come from; and secondly reiterated just how upsetting receiving that abuse must be.

Because of the latter I am very cautious to be overly critical of Rachel Riley. She does receive terrible faceless anti-semitic abuse online which is completely unacceptable and that must take a terrible toll. However I do think she has made a big error here. Personally I think she is wrong about Jeremy Corbyn as an individual for reasons posted elsewhere in this thread, and for the reasons illustrated by my experience of where online abuse may appear to be from but may not.

But more fundamentally I think to take and doctor an image of someone actively fighting racism, and misappropriate it in such a manner is at best misjudged, and insensitive to the victims of apartheid. That is not to belittle her experiences at the hands of antisemitism, but using other victims of oppression to make her point, and using an actual event at which someone was doing the opposite of what she is accusing them, does her argument little favour.