Remember the New Zealand Flag Referendum?

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  1. BarnsleyReds

    BarnsleyReds Well-Known Member

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    That's how Brexit should have been done.

    They voted on 'what' to change - then had a final 'do you want this change, or to keep it how it is?'

    So may would have got her deal agreed with the EU (or Cameron, I guess, would have). They would have had a referendum between that deal or no deal. THEN there would be a 'winner of that' vs Remain. All legally binding votes and none of this would be a problem.
     
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    In before:

    Out means out
    Will of the people
    Unelected European beaurocrats
    Traitorous MPs
    Looney Left
    Remoaners
    Snowflakes

    Think that covers everything
     
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    Farnham_Red Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    Didnt we do something similar with the club crest?
     
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    Or should the new referendum be May's deal or no deal. Remain has been on one referendum and didn't get voted for!
     
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    Marlon Well-Known Member

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    The Tories come in take power impose unnecessary austerity, allow corporate corruption to thrive and put the British people at each other’s throat.
    Turn their attention on immigrants resulting in people who came here legally and welcomed and turning them into almost stateless criminals .
    Reduce our services to almost third worl status especially the police force which had allowed crime especially mugging and knifings to epidemic proportions .
    Then if that’s not enough they turn they’re inner fighting on Europe onto the people allowing liars such a Boris and Farage free range without reigning in the lies they spread .
    Then they turn a people’s cross party divide vote into a Tory only exit not allowing any one else to have a say or input whilst trying to divide the spoils of chaos amongst themselves like Ali babas thieves.
    And they wonder why people are disgusted in them .
    Thing is in little middle England the thick Cnuts will go snd vote for them again and they wonder why the countries in such a mess .
    We need a people’s vote and a people’s parliament to take us forward and if that means a coalition so be it but a cross party coalition involving all parliament not the winners of a fixed boundary consensus the two main party’s enjoy.
     
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    BarnsleyReds Well-Known Member

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    I said how it SHOULD have been done, now how it should be done going forward.

    Honestly, a 2nd referendum with Remain on the ballot is the best that brexiteers can hope for at this point, I have a feeling.

    It's either that or revoke Article 50, I feel.

    Not saying that's right or wrong, just what I think will happen.
     
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    Jack Tatty Well-Known Member

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    WWE all in last man/woman standing style.

    All the politicians in a ring and last person in wins.
     
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    The sensible thing is to revoke A50 . MPs are their to do what they think is best for the people they represent and the nation not necessarily what a split advisory referendum tells them .
     
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    Or do what their constituents tell them to do
     
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    Parliament hasn’t failed - it’s Theresa May that has failed.
    She knew that there was about 150 in her party that wanted a No Deal.
    Knowing that she should have chosen a MP as Chairperson to form a cross party Brexit committee with the intent of finding out what a majority in Parliament could support.
    There is a majority in Parliament for a deal - but they haven’t been asked.

    The result would be a Brexit with close ties to the EU - that is to say something the whole country could support.
     
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    Marlon Well-Known Member

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    They aren’t there to take orders they are there to make the best decisions for firstly the country and then the constituents .
     
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    Don't think so. They'd still have Toby on the crest if we'd had a vote.
     
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    Nothing to worry about if it's on the referendum again then.
     
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    Correct they are voted in to debate, listen and contribute to decisions made in Parliament and advise constituents.
     
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    Was listening to RS earlier and a bloke came on saying that the resolution of this is easy.
    If most people wern`t doing their jobs properly they wouldn`t get paid - Just say to the politicians that their wages won`t be paid until they get a solution to Brexit!
    Might just focus their minds instead of all the political points scoring.
     
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    Or you could do a Labour run Barnsley council style one.. Just like they did for the library.

    They put it to the people, our top choice of name for the new library was ignored, instead we got a mashup 'The Library @ the Lightbox'.

    That's where our MP's got the idea of ignoring the referendum result.. Same crap, same bucket.
     
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    churtonred Well-Known Member

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    Well no it isn't but it's certainly a lot better than the current debacle so, fair point.
     
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    Wow, I can't believe it. I agree with Nudger ! :eek::D
     
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    I like this, I think it succinctly covers the UK since 2010. It's a bit of a mess,I'm not sure how we get out of it.
     
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    It has to be a coalition because although you’ve rightly pointed out what these numbskulls have imposed, there isn’t a single credible alternative. British politics did not react to the protest vote for ukip(UKIP ffs) and this enormous ball of carnage ensued. As has been suggested, a squeeze on the pay or threat of job loss for these otherwise unemployable, short tongued monkeys may have encouraged them to do their jobs.
     

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