The owners have to reveal whether we are a PROPER football club ..... or just a shop window

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  1. Til

    Tilertoes Well-Known Member

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    #21 Tilertoes, Jan 23, 2019
    I think we’ll be reyt as we’ve been reyt in the 40 odd years of up and down mental torture I’ve put myself through so far. When I stop enjoying it for a sustained period, it becomes a chore or I find that I’m slagging the club off at every half story or rumour then it’s time to change hobby’s.
     
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    Young Nudger Well-Known Member

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    #22 Young Nudger, Jan 23, 2019
    Jeez !!!!
    Yer clearly missing the point.
    If we get promotion then all the players value will increase - plus bigger attendances and revenue generated at the WELL.
    If a player sale is worth more than all of this eg £100 million - then of course you sell.

    Do I really need to spell this out !?!?!
     
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    #23 blivy, Jan 23, 2019
    So what you meant to say is that we’re a shop window if we sell any players for less than they’re worth, not just if we sell any, which is a completely different statement and needs qualifying.
     
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    #24 Menai Tyke, Jan 23, 2019
    All we can judge them on is their actions as they never tell us what the actual plan is other than not to do anything crazy.

    We haven’t learned one new thing about our owners since the takeover press conference.
     
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    #25 Redstone, Jan 23, 2019
    Barcelona Real Madrid Man city Man United. Any others I'm missing? Not many clubs aren't selling clubs.
     
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    #26 lk311, Jan 23, 2019
    NICE chairman also said money was being used to pay loans raised to buy the club.
     
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    #27 Marlon, Jan 23, 2019
    Fair point but mine still stands . Nice are in the top division reaping the top benefits in the french FL. so getting Barnsley as high as they can will bring them more capital for their investment . I would say being a third tier club doesn’t bring in the investment they would hope . It’s my opinion but I just don’t see them settling for the capital of a third tier club .
     
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    #28 KingBenny92, Jan 23, 2019
    I hate January
     
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    #29 Bossman, Jan 23, 2019
    Nudge do me a favour pal, get yer sen over to Huddersfield and welcome Winkler to the Club
     
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    #30 e-red, Jan 23, 2019
    For once and with reference to Pinnock, I agree with you nudge.
     
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    #31 higgybaby, Jan 23, 2019
    A bet your a right laugh on a night out, have you ever said anything positive in your whole life?
     
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    #32 MDG, Jan 23, 2019
    I will say that if the club sell Pinnock, Moore and Winkler leaves for Hudds, if our promotion chase this season fails, I'm not renewing my season ticket next season, 4 players plus an essential member of our coaching staff would be too much to accept.
     
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    #33 DusThaNoIII, Jan 23, 2019
    Have I read and interpreted that right?? So I could essentially take out a loan and buy BFC and expect that to be paid back by the club? Surely not
     
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    #34 plug, Jan 23, 2019
    Manchester United?
     
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    #35 DusThaNoIII, Jan 23, 2019
    Don’t know a right lot about the premier league, is that what happened with them? Seems very odd
     
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    #36 plug, Jan 23, 2019
    These clubs are selling clubs as well if the money is right
     
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    #37 Archerfield, Jan 23, 2019
    Essentially yes. In practice you would have to secure the loan or capital to finance any takeover bid. This is where the purchase of Rangers by Craig White fell down. He raised the capital to buy the club using the securitisation of future season ticket sales not as he claimed his own financing arrangements. There is nothing to stop somebody buying a club, either through raising debt or using their own capital, and then taking money out of the club through a debt issuance to pay back any financing arrangement.

    Private equity works exactly like this.
     
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    #38 DusThaNoIII, Jan 23, 2019
    That is crazy from my perspective. So you buy a club by securing capital, the club pays you back then you sell it and take the value of the club as profit? Sounds like a right racket.
     
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    #39 Redblueunwhite, Jan 23, 2019
    This is the main reason the people of Barnsley will not support the club in more substantial numbers because they know what's coming almost every season.
     
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    #40 lk311, Jan 23, 2019
    Totally agree with what you’re saying Marlon, but... if they have bought the club on tick and intend to run it that way, the short cut to that as you say is investment, but if they weren’t willing to invest with their own money to buy the club how likely are they to bank roll?
    Ultimately if the club is solvent and paying its way, they might not mind having to wait a few years by doing it gradually as all it would have cost is time.
     
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