Whatever some think of manager

Be it his tactics his motivation or whatever doesn’t stop players trying and doing what they have been doing nearly all their lives .
The excuse is they are not good enough as a team or even individually but that is not so they have done it albeit not too often .
The fact their heads go down stop trying or pretend to look tired is down to them individually and they should be judged such.
Some of these players could have made a reputation for themselves last few games and have chosen to vent their anger,frustration differences on the field to make a point to the management team and disregard and disrespect the fans who they Claim to revere.
Absolute ******** from some of the players but i doubt they’ll be hanging their heads on shame more like phoning they’re agents to get them back on the merry go round .
I can understand some of the fans turning on the manager I’m still
undecided without seeing his team tbh
But that’s the easy option the players on the pitch from the Forrest game should give their money to charity imo

 

He is being given a lot of stick, some fair and some unfair. And you make a good point about some of the players not being good enough and they do need to take a lot of blame too. I haven't seen many games lately so can't fully say how bad they have been but the issue in football is the manager, in our case Jose is the one responsible for setting out the tactics, training etc. though he is not directly responsible for what happens on the pitch as he cannot control how the players play on a given day. The issue is from my point of view the players clearly are not buying into what he is doing with them and neither are the fans. And unfortunately for Jose it is far easier for the club to remove him and his staff that he has brought with him than removing the whole playing staff.

 

Bang on is that

 

If the players are incapable of better, how did they manage one defeat in eight games in the autumn. Without the improvements to the forward line that McBurnie and Moore have brought.

 

Ask the bloke that made wholesale changes after drawing at Norwich because he **** himself at Cardiff's physical approach. Not been right since.,

 

Jose Morais "he wouldn't see it as failure if Barnsley are relegated" that is where we are at, get shut

 

I get your point Marlon but for me, taking on this guy was a mistake - looking at his career as a manager he hasn't stayed anywhere for much more than a year - that to me says it all - his remit must have been to keep us up and it doesn't look like he will achieve that - we need someone who has experience of getting clubs out of div 1 now along with some money spent by the consortium - a shake up is needed - new players must come in and the deadwood got rid of imo

 

Manager's get paid well because they carry massive responsibilities. Whatever their resources they are expected to deliver: the right tactics, teams and motivation for all games. Get the most out of what you've got. If that's the benchmark then let's say Jose has 'not yet achieved' - but will he ever? I've seen little evidence so far but the Board will have had a hiring conversation with him laying out expectations. If he stays, then one can only assume he is delivering what's expected.

 

For me, the other point is that Jose is having to learn on the job in respect that he will probably have never set foot in most of the grounds that we are playing at and he will have very little knowledge of the teams and players we are up against.
It's probably been a very harsh learning curve for him.
I personally think that given the time things would improve under him, but i just can't see him getting that time.

 

we can all happily accept defeats if we are playing like a united team from the 1st minute to the last giving our all and coming out second best, but giving up at 2-0 and accepting it against mediocre opposition is just not good enough, if anybody saw the Liverpool Roma highlights other night they are 5-0 down and their coach is on the touchline screaming and encouraging his players, FIVE NIL down and he's encouraging his team, when Schalke were 4-0 down in a derby against Dortmund earlier this year, their coach stood on the touchline for the entirety of the second half giving instructions and telling his players not to panic! they drew 4-4.

 

I agree that he is learning and that he won't know much about the league we are in. But that in itself opens many questions as to why bring him in as manager in first place if he doesn't know the league and team. But with all that aside there is one thing learning on the job and improving over time but we do not seem to have seen any improvement and the sheer number of changes each week is alarming. If he doesn't know his best back 5 after this many games then that is a major worry.

 

Wow - has he really said that? Unbelievable if so

 

I’ve said this before. The 11 that step over that white line, regardless of what they think of the manager, should give their all and keep the heads high. It can be difficult when in our position, but some of the recent play has been disappointing and not necessarily down to the manager.

It’s a 4-3-3 system - not exactly difficult. And I see the logic of rotating the full-backs as they both need to do a lot of running, although I also see the logic of keeping the back 4 the same for continuity. What I will say, is that all 4 full backs are decent on their day.

Maybe it’s a bit of both - manager and squad. Hecky was always frustrated with the squad since August and said so himself that he had to remind himself sometimes where they had come from prior.

I’ve not seen much criticism of the players, only the manager. For me, I simply don’t think the squad is good enough. The manager has a lot to learn too - which probably doesn’t help. But at least he’s prepared to make the big calls - nobody can argue with the Goalkeeper situation.

 

It’s difficult to criticise players for lacking ability. That’s clearly not something they can magically change. When you as a manager are aware of that you have to make decisions. Shore up the defence. Play a settled back 4. Build from the back. Keep experimenting to a minimum. Jose has done the opposite.

 

Not if the players who are playing still aren’t doing it.

You’ve got to change it. I think it’s fairly settled anyway - just the fullbacks mainly, but I think that’s based on fatigue. GPS and heart rate levels will show that.

GK wise, I think the fans will agree with all the decisions to be fair.

 

Don’t mind the keeper swap. The rest is just stupid. Given Pinillos lack of fitness I cannot believe that Gps and heart level stats played a big part... a back 4 needs to play together and gel or they make mistakes and play like strangers. Jose has lost me I’m afraid and now apparently relegation doesn’t really matter anyway. We needed a tub thumping inspiration to get us out of the ***** and then Jose to come in next year with fresh ideas. Wrong man. Possibly at the wrong time possibly just the wrong man.

 

There’s other factors to take into account. Anyone who’s ever played will tell you that when you aren’t familiar with the players you’re playing with you often don’t make runs you’d usually make because you’re worried about the player next to me ‘will he cover for me?’ ‘will he be available for the one-two’? etc. Perfect example of 2 players completely in tune with each other we’re Hammill & White. How on earth get something similar when you’re rotating full backs so often?

Doesn’t always mean you’re not trying when you don’t seem to be running about a lot, players can also be confused with the tactics. I’ve seen several players look completely baffled about where they should be playing under Morais.

 

Sick of hearing this, yes he got it wrong that night but the way everyone brings that game up you would think we were ripping the league up before that. We are not in the bottom 3 because Hecky made changes against Cardiff.

 

Look at form since - something changed, either in his or the team's mindset. We've been on steady decline since.

 

That's what I mean. It's down to mis-management, first by Hecky then by Morais. You can get better out of these players.