Why does a football manager have to be a football coach?

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  1. SuperTyke

    SuperTyke Well-Known Member

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    In order to pick the best 11 players on Saturday afternoon why do I have to have personally ran up and down a football pitch on Thursday teaching somebody how to tackle?

    I know that fa rules dictate it but isn't it a bit silly really?

    Would a team really be any worse if a manager told his coaches 'right I want you to work on this this and this today' rather than having to do it himself? Being able to take training and being smart enough to out think the opposition are two different skills yet largely people made considered for managerial positions based on their coaching ability.
     
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    That happens.

    Warnock has been well known to only go in on Friday and Saturday a lot of the time.

    It’s a role I’d like to see McCarthy in for us.

    Taking the odd session and overseeing a Harsley type.

    Coming in on a Friday to talk tactics and work on more opponent specific things and then managing the team on a Saturday and having an input in signings.

    Think it would work well. You’ve then got a good link between the head coach and CEO too. Rather like a director of football really but more involved in match day and responsible for results.
     
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    That's how it used to be didn't it. The manager and first team coach were separate positions back in the day.
     
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    Too much pressure these days finger on the button for me manager should be there 24/7 even if he has a head coach
     
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    I didn't mean so much only being part time I meant more that the pool of potential managers would be so much higher if they didn't needlessly have to have endless coaching qualifications too. Qualifications which in my opinion has made football boring as they all get trained how to coach under the same guidelines.
     
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    Think you’re right but every coach/manager has His own ideas otherwise we would be watching the same ****
     
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    They all seem the same to me these days. Defend at all costs, tippy tappy football. Don't dare to break position and make sure to keep possession even if that means passing it between your defenders for 90 minutes. It's gone through English football from league 2 to the national team for the last 10 to 15 years.

    It's no coincidence that the teams who are successful are the ones who abandon this policy and go for it.

    Flitcroft going for it. Excellent.
    Flitcroft tippy tappy. Useless

    Lee Johnson tippy tappy. Terrible
    Lee Johnson go for it. Climbing table.

    Hecky going for it, best team in league and promotion.
    Hecky tippy tappy utter cross.
     
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    Niel Warnock Fck em sums it up your right dare to be different just don’t want a stiff neck at Oakwell
     
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    I've made the same comparisons with Flicker and Hecky. They started well because they kept it simple, but later felt the need to prove themselves as coaches and ****** it up by complicating things.
     
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