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  1. Bri

    Brian Mahoneys Waist Well-Known Member

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    I've just read the sticky again regarding recruitment. It says Daniel works with the recruitment team to identify players who can play the way he wants to play.Ultimatel;y the board will take some stick and rightly so in some departments.If Paul Conway and co were to look for or suggest players for the club they wouldn't have a clue that's why its not there job to interfere with recruitment.They could possibly have increased the budget but I'm not privy to what we pay and whats exceptable to pay for new players.
    If these players won't or can't adapt to Championship football its got to be down to the people who scouted them and decided they were the ones to play the "press".
    As for me I saw signs against Wigan,Leeds,Forest and Derby that this squad have ability but maybe we need to tweak the playing system to make us harder to beat.
    Over to you Daniel.
     
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    I'm sure he wanted schmidt to replace kieffer bet he was over moon has daniel even given him a start yet?couldnt make the bench today?
     
  3. Bri

    Brian Mahoneys Waist Well-Known Member

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    Schmidt was poached last season he wasn't Moores replacement.Didn't our man in the know say that Moores replacement who would have broken the club record didn't want to come.
     
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    So we never replaced moore at all but we let him leave?
    The man in the know said the board wouldn't match what the club wanted for the player 1.7 million or summat cant remember exact but it was hardly much when we had just sold moore for between 3-4million. Penny pinching.
     
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    Would it be too much to expect that the people who are custodians of the club have the sports nouse to find out if players are genuinely interested in coming here BEFORE selling one of two of our strike force..?

    They make themselves look tinpot..
     
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    Daniel can’t work miracles turning a mid table L1 team into a competent Championship one. We are not even close to being competitive. The recruitment team identifies targets and the manager can select from those targets or have no one. No manager would want the squad we have assembled in the Championship. Successful clubs don’t sell their best players every year and expect success
     
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    You are joking I hope. Where is the experience that Stendel made clear he needed?. Some young guy from Austria no-one had ever hear of? We are well and truly shafted and it’s definitely not Stendel’s fault.
     
  8. Bri

    Brian Mahoneys Waist Well-Known Member

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    Read the sticky I didn't write it.Anyway time for a beer or two.
     
  9. BramptonTyke

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    Im sure stendal was over the moon when the goalie with most clean sheets in L1 and best central defensive pairing in L1 were both sold and his top scorer was sold just before the transfer window closed. All this they wanted to leave rubbish needs to be left at the door. Conar had 6 months left and we got a great deal for him. Same could have been done with pinnock if we were mid table and playing well. These lads are just clearly not upto the task.....
     
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    wolvestyke Well-Known Member

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    All this they wanted to leave rubbish needs to be left at the door.

    100% agree. I'm sick of reading "he wanted to go, there's nothing we could do". The players we sold this summer were all contracted to us. Unless any of them had a release clause (and I don't believe the club have said any of them did) then we could have refused bids and kept them at least until January. And if push came to shove we could've let them run down their contracts and leave for free at the end of the season. We've let players do it before. Relegation will cost us far more than the money we raised by selling them. Next summer our best players will be sold to fill the £6m gap caused by relegation.
     
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    Gior wit balm .
    Abuse Davies got for just kicking ball we’re enough for him to say fek it .
    Why would he not want to go and lots of fans were glad to see back so that’s not true is it ?
     
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    Keeper has not been the problem this season. Loss of Pinnock & Moore is I'm afraid. We are rudderless at the back & have little attacking threat up front. The failure to replace those too players and address lack of cover at left back & central holding midfield, which was brought up multiple times in pre season on this board is our major failing. We were moving up a division, but we have weakened, rather than strengthened. We knew Dougall was out for the start of the season & we only had Ben Williams at left back, a lad I rate, but should have been a second choice at best for now.

    We have to get a new plan together & very quickly.
     
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    Sorry but I've just got to make this post.

    Learn to ******* read!!!!

    Daniel says 'i need a striker'.the ******* sticky says quite clearly that his next Involvement comes after the recruitment team which DOES involve the board of directors have narrowed 7 billion people on the planet down to 3 who fit the policy of being cheap enough and offering the highest potential profit for the future.

    Daniel says what position he wants and then gets to choose from 3 people on the planet the the recruitment team have identified.

    Sorry but that isn't being involved. That isn't him choosing players. That isn't him working with them.
    What that is is a child who is starving asking his parents for food (to do so he had to interrupt them from their boozing session where they were drinking and smoking fags while eating a nice big expensive takeaway). After thinking about it for a while they come back to him saying he can either have a bowl of boiled rice, a bowl full of baked beans or a bowl full of macaroni and cheese. The boy doesn't like any of them but he's going to die if he doesn't eat so he opts for the boiled rice because it's the least bad of the three pathetic offerings he's given to choose from.

    Our recruitment policy is absolutely pathetic, it's restrictive and the only winners are already rich men who get richer.
    Either our shitty scoreboard has the highest running cost in England or money is disappearing from our club left right and centre because the value of transfers in is nowhere near the value of transfers out so where does that money keep going?
     
  14. BrunNer

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    Plugging the 6 million revenue gap of being relegated every 2 seasons. You’d think we’d try and stop up wouldn’t you? It seems a better idea than waste the income from two outgoing transfers on plugging revenue holes from freefalling into League One.
     
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    Unfortunatly, your ignoring the human element in football. The players we let go did want to go, and to a man I can guess that the number one reason was down to money. To us, football is a passion, to them it's simply a job so when someone say to them "we're willing to offer you circa £20k a week" in relation to their £3/£4k a week it's very, very difficult to tell them to sod off, you're staying! Even of we did, word get round very quickly in football and would then work against us in future recruitment. McAnthony at Peterborough for example has been turned down by more than one player this close season for the reason he looks for top doller when selling,which may effect the players chances of progressing up the leagues(this is from an agents mouth that represented one of the players).

    Ever since the Bosman ruling was made, a players contract leangth is nothing more than a tool to ensure that the club can demand compensation for said players. It does usually stop the player handing in an official transfer request though, as if they did they ould also forfeit the rest of their money owed after moving club...
     
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    So who do we blame for not getting cover for Dougall?

    We started the season with our bare bones in central midfield and now have a centre half trying to plug that gap.

    Who do we blame for getting in a vastly inferior replacement for Moore?

    A strike brought in who now cannot get in the bench despite us loaning out Miller and Adeboyejo this weakening us further.

    Who do we blame for not bringing in cover at left back?
     
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    "Do you want to go for a curry?"
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    Good to see you posting again, old mate. I hope it continues.
     
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    The counter to that is that players and agents know they can ask for even more money if the player is out of contract as there is no transfer fee. They also know they can ask for more money if the player has proved himself at Championship level. It's not always prudent to jump ship at the first chance.
    Yiadom wasn't looking for a transfer and wasn't going to sign a new contract. He knew that he could get a much better contract the following summer when a free agent and a year in the Championship under his belt.
     
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    Also players always want to leave most clubs, its what our club do about it that angers me.
    A good deal is only a good deal if you have s half decent replacement.
    Also the suits told us our "plan" was once a player has one year left on his contract, to offer a new one.....if he turned it down, make them available....fine but then we have the kieffer situation, with 2 years left!.....ahhh but he wanted to leave....rubbish...we cashed in and were negligent in our efforts to sign a suitable replacement.
    The other difference is other clubs seem to get good money for their assets.
     

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