Is it possible

Well put. Spot on. Good post.

 

I'm not

 

Erm...not quite on the mark here RR, there has never been any other Barnsley FC owners making so many drastic transfers in and out upon promotion thus significantly weakening the team in the process, to the fact that we’ve spent virtually all season in the bottom three and have been saved by another clubs financial irregularities and administration hopefully on the last day of the season.

These owners have taken the late Patrick Crynes plan and put it on class A drugs as far as I’m concerned and have apparently found themselves extremely lucky to still be in the championship as a result.

They witnessed our relegation two seasons ago and knew what was required then flagrantly ignored it and took a massive gamble with the championship playing staff this season when it wasn’t needed imho.

As it stands, despite good performances towards the end of the season, we look to be staying up by default only hopefully as we haven’t accrued enough actual points to escape relegation had Wigan not been extremely faulty.

 

No. I have no intention of replying.

 

And a calculator

I see the BBS as the equivalent of having a chat over a beer in a pub. If you're chatting and give your opinion on something and ask what others think, then someone takes time to reply to it with a reasoned debate, you listen and respond to it don't you? You don't just ignore it. That's what makes him appear so obnoxious and arrogant to me.

Someone with more experience of working with finances in football has threatened his ego and he's thrown his dummy out of the cot.

 

I have no idea how you know me so well. It is almost like you are my mrs.

 

Poor lass.

 

Clubs being caught cheating is not default. It is the ref blowing his whistle and crying foul.

 

Agreed

 

But the Barnsley owners couldn’t have known other clubs financial circumstances when they made all those extremely risky nae foolish decisions last summer in the transfer market.

The owners look to be extremely lucky this season due to Wigan as our points total of 49 would have had us relegated otherwise and this is a fact without any solid argument to the contrary imho.

 

Leon Wobschall's article in today's YP is reassuring for me, as he identifies a lot of the concerns I have for caution about our surprising survival.

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/spo...tunning-survival-story-leon-wobschall-2922494

We're at an inflection point for the future of the club now, in which we can either learn from previous mistakes and use this as a point to consolidate from, or we can continue to do the same thing over and over again, and produce a season where 3rd bottom on the field doesn't result in survival.

There are some salient points about a change of approach helping to keep Struber motivated and engaged (one point where we've repeatedly failed with managers ahead of a Championship season) and the fact that the entire economic landscape may now have changed for football clubs, so we can't assume that transfer values will be the same going forward as they previously were.

 

Is it a miracle though? Look at the teams in there, teams that were level with us not so long ago. Millwall have nearly got to the play offs for the last two years as well.

Nice was their first club, the money they earned from player sales and the Champions League increased the value of the club and they probably thought thats all they can do with them. To be fair PSG have that country seen up and theres not much money unless you qualify for the final stages of the CL.

 

I sincerely hope this is the objective, it’s clear and aligns the fans and owners. If this is the case why don’t they say so?

 

Time will tell but the January transfer window suggests some lessons have been learned.

 

Each to their own opinion, but I have never read any posts from Red Rain that suggest he's obnoxious and arrogant. He certainly doesn't deserve some of the abuse he gets on here. I don't always agree with him, but I haven't ever been offended by his tone or the way he has expressed himself.

 

I have known that Sheffield Wednesday and Derby have broken the FFP rules since before the start of this season. Their misdemeanors are based on the 2017/18 season, but that is not the point. Companies have policies to guide them through difficult times and difficult decisions. The rest is down to opinions. It is your opinion that the owners were foolish. Furthermore, it is your opinion that we would have stayed up more comfortably if Keiffer Moore, Ethan Pinnock and Liam Lindsay had stayed, even if all 3 were unhappy to stay. I doubt that personally, but let me press on. I agree that the decision to sell them could not have been an easy one, and there would have been doubts among the owners that it was the right decision. It could have cost them, but so could keeping those players. There is no such thing as an easy decision, but they took a decision, and they had to live with it... good or bad.

With the benefit of hindsight, the decision was the right one. We have a team of very young and promising footballers who can only improve in the future. Were they lucky? Well we only know for certain what the outcome was of the decision that they took, and that was an extremely good outcome. We do not know the outcome of the decision that they did not take, and I have said in the past that many of the discussions on the BBS assume a different outcome according to the poster's whim. All this is probably not what you want to hear, but that is what it boils down to

 

RR, This. the YorkshirePost article highlights my thoughts on our club and these owners, they have much to learn now and quickly or next season we may not be so lucky.

 

Exactly.

I made my comments about Struber and why I didn't like how he went about certain things. But then he achieved his objectives so I was wrong. I have to hold my hands up. You've got to take the rough with the smooth.

 

My opinion is that they believe that they have a plan and a talent for improving the value of football clubs. They do so by implementing their plan and patiently waiting for it to succeed. They are not in a hurry. They hope that when they have improved the club, they can sell it on for more than they paid for it. The money can then be reinvested in their next project.

That is probably not what anyone on the BBS wants to hear. They want to see raw emotion. They want to see exciting investments in new players. They want to see results on the field a they want to see them now. However, that is not a sensible way to proceed if you are an investor who is looking for a return on his investment, and that is what our owners are.

 

As I see it, the decisions to sell Moore, Pinnock and Lindsay and not sign adequate replacements was certainly not the right one. It was a very poor one, as demonstrated by our naive and error-prone performances in the first half of the season. This was then partially rectified through the signing of Sollbauer. However, the XG statistics, as well as anecdotal evidence by many who have seen us play, show that we are still lacking at least one suitable goalscorer.