Former UKIP chair

I’m still searching for the evidence I’ve ignored, please enlighten me oh wise one ?? As for opinions, the validity is subjective, surely ? And no, of course I don’t want to see the genuinely needy suffer, but I have to question when we have record levels of employment, when we can justify the hordes of unskilled migrant workers, why can’t our own able bodied unemployed find work ? Is it because the welfare system us more lucrative, is it because they're idle? As someone who could but never has claimed a penny piece it sticks in the throat a bit when I loose 40% of what I’ve grafted to earn knowing its paying fir folk on my street who lay in bed til lunchtime.

 

That's because you ONLY voice concerns about crimes caused by Brown People. Backed up by you ignoring the post above you.

It's a good job Jimmy Saville was white. Top bloke he was.

And that Gary Glitter. Legend.

 

No, but most of us when posting refer to personal experience for our opinions, we also post about Barnsley FC. Other than the gutter press I'm not sure where your content comes from.

 

Trixie
If I listed all your posts where you’d refused to look for concrete evidence or simply ignored my quoting of official stats, you’d just accuse me of stalking you.
As we both know, you consistently ignore a ‘fact’ when it doesn’t suit what you ‘feel’.

as for your tax bill, I learned as a kid that looking at any number on my wage slip other than the one that tells me what I have to live on would just turn me into an angry old bloke. As they say ‘death and taxes’, you can’t avoid ‘em, so you might as well get on with enjoying your life.

 

I disagree with your first paragraph but can’t argue with your second Donny. As always amongst the insults you throw my way there’s often some sense.

 

I’ll give you a personal experience then JP, my daughters at uni, because we earn above a given threshold she gets minimal support, we have to help her out financially by making up the thousands of pounds shortfall on her rent, we pay her a bit to her weekly shopping and I put petrol in her car when she’s at home. As well as studying she works as many shifts as her part time job gives her, often having to work weekends and bank holidays. The three she shares with get full grant, none of them have to work to pay the rent or living expenses, all of them therefore get more rest and study time than she does. So we’re penalized for having a job, working hard, earning above the national average salaries by having to pay extra tax, and she’s penalized for having parents who are in work. Meanwhile my brother in laws brother in law hasn't worked for no reason than he doesn't see why he should have to and has brought two kids up all paid for by the state. I don’t read or need to refer to the gutter press thanks.

 

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There’s no grants for anyone, those poorer kids are just building up debts of tens of thousands.
Grants disappeared years ago, just like JSA.

 

You will always disagree
But for everyone else reading this thread, they can all see where you’ve dismissed the notion of doing any factual research and dismissed evidence.

 

Good on you for supporting your daughter & getting her through higher education. Maintenance grants are no longer available, so I'm not sure what your daughter's flatmates are receiving, there is a Special Support grant for certain limited cases, like the disabled, over 60's, everyone else has to take out Student Loans, to be paid back when they reach a certain level of income.

In respect of your brother in law's brother in law, he seems a bit of a low life from your description. I know a few people who have claimed Job Seekers Allowance for a short time, due to the seasonal nature of our business & within weeks if they've not found a job they've been forced to work washing buses or in Poundland. I'm sure a few people get away with being long term sick, when physically they could work doing something, but that has been clamped down on hugely, to the extent many who should be eligible are denied.

I can only speak for myself, someone who has worked hard all their life, both in full time employment & self employment (for the last 20 odd years). I'm very grateful I've been healthy enough to work & make a decent living most of those years. I had a failed business in the early 2000's, where I lost my home, (which I'd nearly paid the mortgage off) & lived for a year and a half with no hot water & only an electric fan heater, as I waited for the house to sell & I set up my new business, which has been largely a success, if not a massive money spinner. To be earning a good living is something I'm grateful of, because I wouldn't want to go back to those days for anything. I contemplated taking my own life at the time.

This may give you an idea why I have compassion for people less fortunate than myself.

 

I have some parallels with you there JP having grown up poor in a council estate I’m well aware of what its like to live in poverty, maybe its the reason I am like I am as I dragged myself out of it whilst others seem to be happy claiming. I also lost a business to the recession that took every penny we’d got but fortunately we were able to keep the house. Just winds me off the clock when people won’t work thats all.

 

This does not justify you tarring all with the same brush then and spouting/ supporting right- wing rhetoric that often you provide nothing to back to you up. Have your I’m alright Jack attitude by all means, but don’t try and pretend it’s anything else other than that. You support every anti- Labour Party post on here, you often champion the likes of Tories and Farage and the anti- immigrant/ migrant ********.

 

I get it now. These foreigners come over here to steal our benefits, but somehow they don’t steal our benefits, they steal our jobs. But according to previous posts, these jobs don’t pay as much as benefits do they? And that is why Scroungers lay in bed doing nothing and claiming benefits.
So the foreigners are working all week for less than they could get in benefits and paying tax which pays for the benefits system which allows people to lay in bed doing nothing except wait for an opportunity to vote to send the foreigners back where they came from.
OH! Dear, and I thought I got it!! Back to the drawing board for me.

 

If i felt i was perceived as a "knuckledragger" I hope I'd consider educating myself rather than going out and voting for the BNP.