England flags

Are you saying they have a right to fly a flag on their property or to put 400 on public property outside other people's houses? There are very different connotations to those two scenarios, and it's the second one we are dealing with right now.

 

Either really. By that logic football fans shouldn't be adorning stadiums with flags and other things then?

It's really not that big of a deal is it? Someone puts a flag up on a bridge or wherever....who is hurting? Doesn't bother me one jot. They've got them every 10 yards down the Mall in London, why do they get to have them, and so many of them?

As long as theyre properly secured and not obscuring sight lines or something safety related...let them crack on.

It's only a phase anyway. People are reacting to a hot social topic, it'll be something else that we're getting whipped into a frenzy about soon. My guess would be that asteroid/UFO Atlas thingy.

 

So it doesn't bother you in the slightest that Tommy Robinson is claiming credit for "raising the colours"? You really think that masked men hanging flags from every lamp post and painting roundabouts, crossings and even walls of churches is pure patriotism? You think the 70 year old being threatened for asking the men hanging a flag on a lamppost right outside his home to stop is ok?

And.. yeah I'm sure these people who are putting up 100s of flags by night to lampposts are definitely securing them properly and safely.

Patriotism is great. But this mass mobilisation campaign is nationalism by any measure. This is not healthy or normal behaviour, and it does not represent the majority of the country. It is a small number trying to send a loud message.

 

If people want to hang a picture of the King up in their house and sing the national anthem to them everyday then fair play to them. If they want to fly the union flag, English flag, Yorkshire flag, rainbow flag, Ukrainian flag, Mozambique flag on their own flag pole at home then I agree with you.

But people painting flags on roundabouts/zebra crossings and draping them from motorway bridges is a political statement, not patriotism. Look at the countries and movements of the past who have rallied behind a flag or banner and used it as a symbol of what they represent. It doesn’t end well once people start talking about patriotism. Look at the Capitol Hill riots not that long ago and what kind of place the US is today.

Personally I don’t want our country to follow in their footsteps because I want what’s best for our nation and all those who call her home. That’s what patriotism actually is, not adorning myself in a symbol so that others recognise me as one of their “gang”.

 

Its illegal to hang a flag from property without the permission of the property owner. And many of these appear to be cheap plastic flags fastened on with cable ties. How long before the tattered remains of a flag falls over onto a windscreen causing a car to crash?

 

I don’t think most people have a problem with patriotism or the flag in and of itself. It’s the way it has (in particular through this raise the colours thing) been co-opted by the far right.

I have a suspicion about the sudden compulsion of these people to put the flag up right now. When seemingly before the raise the colours thing they weren’t doing it/weren’t patriotic.

 

This is what Fartage and Yaxley-Bobbinson want

 

How about never ,wonder what odds you would get on this happening

 

Reight oh!!!.............sithi.

 

If flags aren't a problem, why are Reform banning LGBTQ+ flags in councils they have a majority in?

 

Absolute state of this.

https://news.sky.com/story/our-countrys-ruined-protesters-on-why-they-oppose-asylum-hotels-13419796

 

The right wing mob can't spell properly and now they don't know what their country's flag looks like!

 

I think what's telling is that these people chose not to protest at the peak of the application backlog from 2023 into 2024, but instead complain now when the backlog is being cleared and there has been a plan laid out to actually end use of hotels.

So much of this is about people being too willing to be told when there is a problem by a particular group or individual rather than actually looking at the problem objectively.

Also noone who keeps a cardboard cutout of Farage in their house should be allowed to interact with other human beings unsupervised.

 

Danish illegal migrants clearly.

 

Could be Swiss

 

I saw the condensed piece this morning on sky news. I mean if you were to put together the stereotype of a racist, you'd struggle to ape it quite so closely.

And to think, the woman was a teacher. Frightening that someone with zero ability to think rationally and understand core issues was in charge of teaching young kids.

The other thing that becomes more and more clear is that the whole essence of "illegal migrants" has nothing to do with the boats. When they say illegal migrants, they mean migrants. They mean foreigners. They mean skin colours that aren't white (well, mahogany ironically in many of their cases). Illegal migrants is merely the code, the dog whistle to rage against non white people.

It's the next brexit. You wonder what they'll hate when they run out of things to hate against. But that's fascism. It only ever intensifies and escalates. Finding the next enemy. The question is who will the next enemy be after "illegal migrants".

 

The bloke who pushed Brexit down the same idiots’ throats, which has exacerbated the issue they’re now protesting about. Brexit, which saw lots of ‘white’ Europeans no longer able to freely work/live here, so more non-EU migrants needed etc etc etc.

If only education was free.

 

Or a spark from a passing locomotive causes one to burst into flames!

 

I am not sure that I would also ever want her teaching children either! The video of the protesters outside the Cedar Court hotel looks like a Wetherspoons remake of Cocoon.

 

A few tweaks with some red paint will soon show what these "patriots'" flags are really about.