Keir Starmer

Wouldn't won't his job for a gold pig.

 

Absolutely. The entire Reform agenda is around taxation. The logical consequence of cutting taxation is fewer social benefits such as healthcare, maternity pay, working conditions, childcare, even down to bin collections etc. It stands to reason that you’re not going to get more services by paying significantly less tax. Their messaging has changed recently and now even people like our Redrum has started to introduce comments around taxes into his posts. I wonder if he realises where that thinking has come from though and how his hate is being manipulated in real time to support reducing his quality of life.

 

That's the real issue with them isn't it. They get people riled up over hot button issues then offer solutions that won't come close to fixing the issue but will line their own pockets and the pockets of their rich mates.

I also can't think of a single thing that Farage has actually DONE. Either in his time as and MEP or MP, I can't find a single thing he's actually delivered. Or an action he's taken. He just makes speeches pretty much 24/7. How can anyone think that someone of that level of inaction would achieve anything at all in power?

 

Don’t forget he got us our country back

 

That reminds me, I’ve started getting emails about Saga holidays.

 

I thought you were going to tell me that your house is worth £400k per bedroom! Should pay for a few nice jaunts, Saga or otherwise

 

The trouble is that not one Reform voter will see that and accept any of its content nor even so much as think about it for even half a second.

 

Should be an IQ test to get the vote. I’m tired of suffering the decisions of idiots.

 

Most of them couldn’t spell IQ

 

Well lets see now the age for voting has been reduced. By the way, people with higher earnings already do pay more tax than those with lower earnings.

 

I never thought I’d have this opinion but I think starmer has done a half decent job. The issue is that the government are as weak as water in a position from where they could have made actual change. The country at the moment is wasting money hand over fist and every idea to curtail this is sneered at by an increasingly entitled population who love to be victims. There are no popular decisions here so they should show some backbone and go with what they believe. As for starmer, 5 out of 10 which is better than I thought he’d be.

 

If Reform win it will be on Labour. They were elected to make a difference to change a rotten system that wasn’t working for the majority of our citizens not veer to the right chasing gammon votes they will never get.

Labour need to offer hope and direction very very quickly. First step to that will be ditching Starmer.

we did try to warn people this is how it would play out.

 

I’m not sure age determines levels of stupidity, but I’d like to think younger people would be more left leaning considering the absolute state the generations before them have made of running things.

As for your tax point, on paper millionaires face higher rates, but in reality someone on £30k ends up losing a bigger slice of their usable income, because they can’t escape VAT and NI. The ultra-rich can shift their money around to pay far less than the official rates. As we all know.

 

They have barely served for a year. It will take a little longer to put right the effects of 14 years' misrule. Fortunately, they have until 2029.

 

How you start matters ,and taking money off the elderly and disabled , ramping up vat on small businesses, fuelling the racist asylum debate by using far right tropes from the 1960’s , was not in the election manifesto despite some posters claims

 

If you like your stats then here's a few

Around 60% of income tax revenue comes from the top 10 per cent of earners, and 30% from the top 1 per cent

For every 3 people paying income tax in the UK , 1 claims the state pension - that used to be 20 people paying in for 1 claiming it

We need to get to the bottom of why 44% of new claims for benefits in 2024 were on the grounds of mental health - I don't for one minute think it isn't an issue, but for numbers to increase so rapidly we have to ask the question as to why

Seeing as people are living longer , state pension age going up etc - why dont they revert back to the old system of qualifying years of NI contributions at 44 years?

Why don't they stop paying ridiculous amounts into public sector pensions as an employer contribution - ie from the tax payer

The government have £600bn held on deposit after the financial crash that gets paid at the BofE base rate - there's £24bn if that stopped

With state school education , your children should be made to go to the nearest one to them - not one of your choosing due to Ofsted reports - that's how it used to be !

Educate children about things that matter and not about stuff that happened years ago

I keep saying it - you cannot stifle aspiration and unfortunately that is what is happening. If you made the system more fair you could argue you would get better rewards - the whole tax system need ripping up and starting again with - instead of these layers of complexity on top of more layers of complexity

The sooner any government accepts that some people are more intelligent than others, some people are more skilled than others and some are more ambitious than others and some are lazier than others , the better - it is not okay for someone to earn a good carry on , to put money in the pockets of someone who can't be bothered

Socialism is okay until it runs out of other peoples money

Whether people accept it or not - most of us have will have some capitalist beliefs and some socialist beliefs

 

Bit of a simplification of some complex issues. But the Tory press would be happy enough with it.

 

Fair share is relative.

The highest earners are usually on executive salaries from corporations and pay themselves extravagant salaries and bonuses which ridiculously count as business expenses and therefore massively reduce taxable profits of the organisation and avoiding corporation tax and instead syphoning it off into their own accounts. This is greed and leads to them having levels of money that are completely unneccessary. They can afford to pay far more tax than the rest of us while still having far better lives. No sympathy for the devil here I'm afraid

 

You missed the following.

Some people are greedier than others.
Some people are more dishonest than others.
Some people are more selfish than others.

 

Well said mate.