Controversial opinion. Banksy is *beep*

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  1. John Peachy

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    I think most people know it is 3D from Massive Attack. Of course he denies it, but I know people on the Bristol scene that know it is him.
     
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    Everyone knows it is 3D, AKA Del Naja.
     
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    Yeah I meant public, rather than insiders. There will be loads ITK that know who it is, but it's a lot easier to keep them quiet. Just really surprised he's never been caught publicly. More reason to believe they're planned with authorities etc. Councils for example, know they will always benefit in some way, so it's in their interest really, to help stage these things.
     
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    John Peachy, Feb 15, 2023
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    John Peachy Well-Known Member

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    I don't know his modus operandi, but I suspect you are correct. These are hugely staged events now.
     
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    Just seen that BBC have unearthed an interview of Banksy and his voice, also that he refers to himself as 'Robbie'.

    The voice doesn't sound like Robert Del Naja to me, seems a bit too broad but possible I guess. Still got my money on Robin Gunningham :D


    BBC News - Banksy: Street artist confirms first name in lost BBC interview
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-67449087
     
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    I'd missed this first time round, but Bretton went bust because they got a loan (or grant) for £x million to develop Manygates into student accommodation - and at the same time the opportunity to buy Longside farm came up. So the principal persuaded the governors to borrow more and spend twice the cash building the hostels and extending the estate into the historic shape it was. Then they failed to meet the repayments on the loans. IIRC the principal and/or finance director ended up on fraud charges and Leeds came in to rescue it. They closed it a few years later and handing it all over to the sculpture park.

    Last time I went, the Sculpture Park were stopping people walking over the public footpaths across the old estate - which IIRC is illegal.
     
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    No. I'm Spartacus.
     
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    I know it's an old thread. (Realised when I saw a Mr C like. Hope you are well btw. Get thissen back on)
    But thinking over. Art is re-saleable. Watching a bloke kick a bag of wind about and getting 100s of thousands of pounds for one game alone. Not to be seen again. (Except repeat and rinse) Now. that is obscene.
    Can I have a share in a banksy.
     
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    Just between you and me, I know its him. Not, I've read it on the internet and done my own research "know", but really know.
     
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    Pretty annoying that the two prime candidates could both go by the name 'Robbie'. We're no further forward :)

    I also like the theory that Banksy is actually not one person, but a collective. Some claim it's 'definitely' 3D and others claim it's 'definitely' Gunningham - maybe it's actually both? Perhaps others as well? It would certainly make it easier to throw people off the scent, if it were actually several people, operating with multi-media, in different towns, cities and countries.
     
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    Apparently someone has launched a defamation case recently against "Banksy" and Gunningham is listed as a co-defendant.
     
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    Van Gogh's art is little more than daubings of oil on canvas, Henry Moore's art is nothing more than casting some metal, Mondrian's art just a few coloured lines.

    If it is so simple then you do it and then you become the artist taking the flak.
     
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    I like Van Gogh! I like the way he conveys summer heat in some of his paintings. :)
    I do do some painting. I the great scheme of things I'm s**t. I'm allowed my opinion on Banksy though as is everyone.
     
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    He'd probably sell it for some outrageous figure. That's what I'd do. I neither like nor loath Banksy by the way, but I'd be very pleased to get a nice windfall.
     
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    I guess it is about the creativity behind what he does, not necessarily the talent required to spraypaint a stencil. I get where youre coming from though :)
     
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    I'd argue that any decent cartoonist demonstrates as much creativity as Banksy but on a weekly basis.
    As an artist I'd rate him as no more than a 5 out of 10. As a businessman. 10. :)
     
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    How would you rate Rothko, artistically speaking? His collection is valued at comfortably more than $600m
     
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    You could say exactly the same about Andy Warhol. He didn't even work on most of his prints, they were done by others at the Factory. The impact & effect, discussion & divisive nature is what makes art, art. That goes for all art, including music IMO. Anything that fails to divide opinion rarely gets a look in, in terms of exposure, despite it being brilliant. That isn't that new a thing, but 20th century onwards definitely. Rite of Spring by Stravinsky would be a good example, or Millais Ophelia also spring to mind. Lots of these things are more appreciated after the time. Nick Drake being a prime example.

    People like what they like. Art is not science & only occasionally mathematics, as Black Francis said... I could not fault him on that.
     
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    Of course you're allowed your opinion, it's no more valid than anyone else's though.
     
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