Benefits Crackdown

Don`t forget Sky dishes.

 

Tbf, I think there should be a universal basic income. If some people want to live life without two pennies to scratch together, let them. The vast majority of people will want to earn more to buy nicer things. Some of the people who don’t want to work might even become more productive members of society once the stigma and shame is taken away. Mental health would certainly approve when people are not as easy to exploit as they aren’t as desperate.

 

Unfortunately you can put any scheme out there. They will be always people that don't want to work.

This will cause slave labour.

I had 2 month on the dole once upon a time and they threw me straight on a work experience course to work weekends and the job lot to be told they are 0 vacancies.

It will be the working class and willing people that will face being shat on.

 

What gets me going I left school on a Friday started work on the Monday, don't think I ever had more than 5 days sick until retirement at 65. Paid most of my working life highest tax band, yes I know I was very lucky but I know 2 kids from my year never had jobs and both drive around in brand new electric cars. Disability no doubt? I must have been one of the thick kids at school.

 

With respect it sounds like you have no idea how they paid for their cars and are just leaping to an assumption.

 

I have a mate on disability benefits. He suffers from dwarfism and struggles just to put food on the table every week.

 

Councils can put up council tax by "up to" 5 percent.

Hmm...I wonder how much mine will be going up by?

 

Both been my friends for 62 years,but it's these types of people who rob the genuine ones of a decent life.

 

It's these people who I feel for.

 

Probably not getting massive amounts of money on disability or dole I don't know as I've worked from leaving school fortunately. But it's the other perks, NHS prescriptions, dental care, council tax, rent all sorted.

 

A reminder that more money isn't paid out each year in benefits that recipients are entitled to than claimed through fraud.

A reminder that tax avoidance costs far more money than benefits fraud.

 

If half of the people on here actually had any experience whatsoever of the hoops you need to jump through to be awarded benefits then you would 100% change your tune.

I've care coordinated/ worked with lots of people on benefits - one with lifelong history of schizophrenia and has been sectioned dozens of times, another with MS who cannot walk without aids- both rejected for PIP initially.

It is nonsense that thousands of people in this current day and age are "sponging off the system", I can assure you. And what benefits they do get doesn't cover the lavish lifestyles you are making out.

 

You sound like a great friend to them.

 

Why because he doesn't agree with what they do?

 

Still doing nothing to create the employment environment where all these 'scrounging workshy' folk can get a job.

In fact, they'd rather fiddle as Rome burns. Messing around with things that have little impact like Rwanda and the boats when it's the economy and the NHS that need fixing.

 

Well its clear he has no idea how they have paid for the cars, so yeah presuming your mates are 'robbing others of a decent life' is a pretty shitty thing to think about a so-called mate isn't it?

 

You don't get DLA or equivalent to pay for a Motability car unless you really need it. My daughter gets it, she can't walk and never will, but we have to fill in a 30 page form for her every few years and get medical exports to attest to it.

They aren't screwing the system, they are using it for what it is there for.

 

I agree. It would help mental health problems. I'm not ashamed to admit I wouldn't work if I didn't have to. I've never been money orientated and doubt I ever will be. I'd gladly walk away from public life.

 

We've just helped publish some research on Universal Income - https://blog.ukdataservice.ac.uk/the-health-case-for-basic-income/

Basically it would pay for itself by reducing the amount that people on low income and benefits 'cost' the NHS.

We also helped with this report that shows the impact of claiming benefits on single mums and children - https://blog.ukdataservice.ac.uk/welfare-benefit-single-mothers/

 

Sadly I think the attitude of a large proportion of the general public is too rooted in jealousy and a crabs in a bucket mentality for something like UBI or compassionate benefit reform to ever happen.