PAY THE NHS & SOCIAL CARE PEOPLE A DECENT WAGE

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-65291267

 

Public sector in general. We all rely on these services for so much.

 

Fully agree!

 

Wish they would, they deserve it!
Don’t think the should be going with these long strikes though.
Thing is it winds me up when they say they are covering this and that but my mate has had very important major heart surgery pushed back twice through these strikes, very worrying.

 

They are worrying, but the blame lies solely with the Tories.

 

I agree with some of it but the junior doctors one is just taking the piss

 

I wouldn't fancy being in charge of more than one ward age 22 at night like the Dr was when my mum died. The pager didn't stop! At some point there is a need to say enough is enough!

 

Who shouldn't get a payrise? I agree they should but not everyone will be able to, especially not the amounts so many sectors want. There isn't an unlimited pot of money and the ridiculousness of how covid was dealt with will take decades to pay off.

 

There is but then shouldn't the campaign be to hire more doctors? Not to give a huge, and it is huge, payrise to the existing ones? What they're asking for is simply greed and unrealistic and I feel that it prevents serious negotiations from taking place

 

politics aside I think they are going to lose public support when folk realise how many peoples health is being seriously adversely affected

 

I bet you wouldn’t be saying that if you had studied hard for 5 years, got into massive amounts of debt as well whilst doing so, then get treated like a slave with goodness knows untold hours on call for just £14 an hour. They are only asking for £19 an hour. it’s the Tories you need to look at for rubbing ALL our public services down.
i haven’t seen you complaining about then giving dil-do Harding £37 billion that’s simply disappeared!!! That money would have covered all these pay rises for years…

 

They should already be on £19 per hour, cos they shouldn’t be working such long hours.

 

Can't, too many tax breaks and dodges for already rich people.

 

The greed is with the Tory party Government Ministers and their wannabe successors.

 

This sums it up for me.



Their pay has fallen so far behind where it was 13 years ago that they are leaving in droves for Australia and New Zealand - both countries having a policy to raid the NHS for staff. Once they are gone they are gone for good. We can't recruit from Europe because again, wages are falling behind and even if they weren't, since Brexit, we've made it almost impossible for them to come here. It takes 7 years to train doctors and 5 years to train nurses and they come out of that with debts running into 6 figures - which they have no chance of paying off when they can barely survive.

These are the people we clapped for on thursdays, seems such a long time ago....

 

You are talking about a newly qualified foundation year 1 doctor working Monday to Fri day shifts only without overtime. That's just under 5% of all junior doctors.you could just as easily be talking about an ST6-8 junior doctor (again working Monday to Friday, day shifts only) who is asking for a 20 grand a year pay increase. It's unrealistic.

 

20 Grand, equivalent to an hours "consultation" for most bent Tories.

 

Yes but I don't agree with the bent Tories making money.

 

Get your head out of the Daily Mail and look what’s happened with Public Sector and private sector pay particularly in the last 13 years, and you’ll begin to understand why workers are wanting these amounts.

 

It is recognition of their worth. Not so long ago they were working all hours due to Covid. Some of these junior doctors striking now will have really been thrown in at the deep end. I want doctors in the NHS to feel valued , and under the system we have then pay is crucial to this.