Airlines binning applications

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  1. Hooky feller

    Hooky feller Well-Known Member

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    1000s of applications for jobs being binned. Because of Brexit, as those applying from abroad. don't qualify.
    Boris "It's the airlines fault"
     
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    Are they for the Overhead Bins?
     
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    Covid and Ukraine couldn’t have come at a better time for him. He has another 5-10 years worth of excuses.
     
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    You say that, but there are starting to be articles and opinion pieces in the Times and even in the Torygraph about the negative economic impact of Brexit. It's a shame that Labour are so paralysed by the B word and just can't find their voices to honestly highlight the negatives of the version of Brexit dePfeffel plumped for.

    If Labour fail to articulate what Brexit has and will do, they'll find it articulated for them in way which is far from honest or genuine. Similar to how 2010 was in their view the watershed of labour overspending and not the great banking crash that Gordon Brown managed to minimise the impact of.
     
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    But Corbyn
     
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    Jimmy viz Well-Known Member

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    Did you see Stella Creasey’s article? Bit of medium term leadership positioning there. And good on her.
     
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    Yes, I read it last night and agreed with much of it. The more the liars lie, the more they need to be challenged. That parts of the tory right propaganda machine are starting to put their names to criticism of Brexit, it's quite incredible the issues aren't being mentioned.

    I can see the arguments for keeping schtum. I don't agree with the, but their may be some merit some times. But it's too big an issue to be silent on.

    Miliband took the strategy of say little and save policy for a sprint finish near election time. That failed miserably.
     
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    Jimmy viz Well-Known Member

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    i thought it was very on point. She clearly wanted to place difference between her and Starmer. Definitely on manoeuvres but also the right thing to do.

    One thing I find jarring is the all the types who had issue with Corbyn’s vacillating (I was one of them) that now gives a free pass to Starmer who has backtracked on his commitment to them.
     
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    I'm certainly no fan of Starmer. And I'm not sure who is advising him but there seems to be a real lack of insight and certainly very little courage to have any form of conviction. I saw a snippet of an Alistair Campbell podcast and the suggestion was that opposition leaders often get drawn into fighting up coming elections on the basis of the previous one. Whatever anyone thinks of him, I thought that aspect alone was particularly shrewd and accurate.

    I couldn't tell you what his pledges were and I couldn't tell you how he's broken them. I am left with a sense of we're in Miliband territory and that Labour don't want to say anything of note in case it offends anyone. Brexit split the electorate in an uncomfortable way for all parties. The tories morphed to try and straddle the tory/ukip/bxp schism. Though thats now falling apart. Labour still don't know how to bridge their divide and I'm not especially sure that it can.

    When push comes to shove though, I'd take any or all of SNP, Green, Lib Dem, Labour and Plaid Cymru forming any sort of government to ensure this dangerously evil and dangerously lazy shower don't get in again.
     
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    https://www.clpd.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Keir-Starmers-10-Pledges.pdf

    Not seen much evidence of Pledge 6.

    I’m relatively happy that Starmer is crapola. Means a hung Parliament and PR are achievable and we can all start voting for whoever we really want to.
     
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    I’m not sure he’s broken them as such (and I’ve only glimpsed) but they don’t seem to have been excessively championed. But then given we don’t really know any policy aspects it’s hard to judge.

    You’d hope every opposition party would be eager to change the voting system tories unfairly thrive in, but I’ll believe it when it happens.
     
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    He has explicitly stated we will not rejoin the single market. So a straightforward break of pledge/ lie to get elected.

    I suspect the LDs will drive a much harder bargain this time.
     
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    Recent polls on brexit. Right to leave Wrong to leave Don't Know
    Date.---- R-----W----Dk

    May 5-6---39% 47% 13%
    Apr 26-27 37% 49% 14%
    Apr 19-20 38% 49% 12%
    Apr 3-4, 22 38% 49% 13%
    Mar 3-4, 22 39% 49% 12%
    Feb 1-2, 22 39% 48% 13%
    Jan 11-12, 22 38% 49% 13%
    Jan 6-7, 22 38% 50% 12%
    Dec 1-2, 21 38% 49% 13%
    Nov 24-25, 21 40% 48% 12%
    Nov 10-11 21 37% 50% 13%
    Nov 3-4 21 39% 48% 13%
    Oct 12-13, 21 38% 49% 13%

    I suspect there would be enough of the don't knows to have given a stay vote if done today.
     
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    But it's the will of the people. When the stars aligned for the Little Englanders and the racists back in 2016 it was a point in history that should be forever set in stone and we should now move on.
    Or sumthink. :rolleyes:
     
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    Hooky feller Well-Known Member

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    Is it though mate. I believe the scots should be able to hold another referendum at some stage. So why not one on rejoining the EU. If their is enough support for it. I'm not saying overnight. But in a period within a generation say.
    Why should the sons suffer for the acts of their fathers so to speak.
     
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    Agreed.
     
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