Exactly. That experience gave you the reason to never go into that line of work A few of my mates had similar experiences - and it galvanised their thoughts more.
Circumstance are always different in every situation though TBF. My daughter does 3 days a week at college so has the time. I’m guessing yours were/are full time which is different. I’d much rather something like this was offered than all the false apprenticeships thrown around just to get cheap labour.
Can't disagree there, not all apprenticeships are what they're cracked up to be. Although some are very good.
I've got a few apprenticeships going if any young uns want to get valuable experience mowing my lawn, or washing my car, or cleaning my windows...
Perhaps worth noting our last 3 CEO’s had zero experience of the job ahead of being appointed. That zero experience has translated to salaries of between £140k-£190k a year plus expenses and no doubt equipment, training and support. It’s impossible to justify to pay a young kid absolutely nothing for just a few hours. Zero justification at all.
Sorry but that's utter nonsense. Khaleds done everything to the point, he was offered a CEO position and then went out and searched opportunity. He talked about this a few weeks ago and whilst I knew he'd done a lot in the sport before that I wasn't aware of the level. From the company that became Wasserman to the City group stuff. The setting up an agency that's still going to go through the steps to become a pro footballer. Also maybe he mentioned he did something within a club around commercial or media. Can't remember which one. I hope the contacts he’s got within the game will help this summer because they could be priceless for BFC. Ben mansford had a legal mind and football mind that couldn’t be matched by much. The Robert Zuk role like the KEA fits together nicely to the areas they might not be great in.
Out of interest. For those defending unpaid work, what are jobs that it's acceptable in? Taking photos for a football club? Stocking shelves for Tesco? It will help the slave intern get vital experience which will give them a better chance of securing a job in the future
What about those big corporations in London that are drowning in money and offer 3 month unpaid internships to break into the world of publishing or journalism, the likes of Penguin Random House, or Future Publishing etc? Of course, the likes of Tarquin will have a clean run at it while his parents fund those 3 months in London, but the likes of me (from Barnsley) have no chance of being able to afford that opportunity. If I could have had somewhere to live post-uni for free in London for those 3 months I would have lived on bare minimum to make it happen. But I couldn't. Instead I went into retail for 9 years (8 years too long) and now work for the NHS. I make no complaint, this is my lot and I am grateful regardless and appreciate the good in my life. But unpaid internships were (are they still?) the norm, and they were always at least a month, and thus becoming elitist by default. This internship sounds very flexible, understanding the needs of the applicant, and gives a unique opportunity to get into media. Previous internships have led to careers as mentioned in the thread. If I was still local, and I could do a day a week alongside my existing job, I'd jump at the chance. If I was still at uni studying and doing my cleaning job at a school and could do this on a Saturday, I'd jump at the chance. The club deserve some credit.
None of the last 3 CEO’s had ever been a CEO before. They were paid to learn their craft. If you think that’s nonsense… well…
Sad to see a self-claimed left wing socialist defending such policies. Really really disappointed in the club and the individuals involved.
I think it is a tad harsh to batter the club over this one. My daughter is at uni, studying nursing. The biggest part of her studies are work placements and voluntary work. She has just spent 12 weeks, basically, cleaning 5h1t off old blokes’ dangly bits. All unpaid. No travel expenses and the cost of parking at a hospital for twelve hours is astronomical. So effectively, she is PAYING to go to work. But at the end of it, she will leave with experience and should walk straight into a job. Now, if she were studying media, instead, this is a fantastic opportunity to come out of the other end with something of note on the CV. Believe me, I am very much against unpaid work, zero hour contracts etc. But that’s not really what this is. This is club employees prepared to share their experience with the next generation of media workers. I can only see good in this, myself.
That first line is complete bollôcks. They could easily pay on a zero hours contract if needed to provide the flexibility. The flexibility and (lack of) pay are not related.
I did teaching at uni and worked unpaid in a school for months for 4 years. I didn’t get money from it but I was working towards a formal qualification and the schools were all checked by the uni for suitability, I had visits from uni staff to check all was ok and I could contact them at any point if anything went wrong or I was being exploited. If the club was offering this as part of an accredited course that would be different, but they’re not. I know you can tell the difference between a university arranged work placement and if a hospital, off their own back, advertised an ‘intern’ job externally for someone to do the work your daughter did for 12 weeks for free for ‘experience’.
Your Your opening gambit, in this thread, was that unpaid internships should be illegal. But now, having shared that you did unpaid work to gain your qualification, the unpaid bit now isn’t the issue. You have edited your post as were basically now saying it is a safeguarding issue in case something ‘untoward’ goes off. I am really still struggling to see any negative in the club offering this opportunity to gain experience. But, anyway, I am off to a music festival now, unpaid and hoping something ‘untoward’ DOES happen. Enjoy your bank hol
I edited my post to include the last sentence, why are you making up what the edit was when you clearly didn’t see the post before the edit (it existed for about 15 seconds). Work experience as part of an accredited course to gain a formal, recognised qualification with checks in place is completely different to a private company advertising for free labour in exchange for ‘experience’. Also, safeguarding is incredibly important, that’s why universities don’t just send people off without approving the placement first; it’d be ripe for abuse otherwise. If the club partnered up with a college or university and offered them work experience placements that matched the specific requirements then that would be better. The club may have to tweak the experience slightly in favour of the applicant but then they are getting free work so that’s the price you pay. There must be apprenticeships in this field, surely they could do that and pay them the chicken feed that goes with it? (The reason apprenticeship wages are so low by the way is because you get a qualification at the end of it and even though you get that tangible thing as ‘payment’ they still give you actual money too).