Your point being. Wasn't aware till i just looked him up. There are lots of good socialist privately educated people. Education and social conscience. Can be achieved. Unlike Thatcher who was born to a supposed working class family, (not true btw) and called the miners the enemy within. Who hated the unions. Who privatised most of the utilities.
My point is that Corbyn would be well in contention for the worst Labour leader in history. In my opinion. And Milne was his enabler.
There is where we disagree. But let's not pretend thatcher had it rough. To mention her in the same breath to belittle Milne and Corbyn is an insult imo.
It's OK to disagree. We all have our own views. The point is not to belittle Milne. But I hardly think he is an objective judge of Thatcher's record. As it happens, I despised the woman's policies, but I don't think Milne is the best witness in that particular argument. In Corbyn's case, I think he is partially responsible for inflicting Johnson upon us. He was unelectable from Day One, and the moment Labour went down that path they distanced themselves further from power - in my opinion.
May a I suggest a working title...We spit on her grave The wicked witch is now Dead but her legacy lives on To think if her father hadn't stopped my uncle from seeing her sister all those years ago Thatcher could have been part of our family.....phew lucky escape lol Shut our pits but made blood money from her stake in the South African coal industry
2 contemporaneous diaries of 2 striking miners (written day by day, it with hindsight) 1 was a striking miners in Notts in the face of overwhelming odds - “ If Spirit Alone Won Battles: The Diary of John Lowe” edited by Jonathan Symcox 1 was a striking Yorkshire miner - “The Miner’s Strike, Day by Day” by Arthur Wakefield Both books published by Warmecliffe Books / pen and sword books (www.penandsword.co.uk), a Barnsley Publisher (both available on Amazon & in a number of college/university libraries (& the National Mining Museum) Striking miners’ words each day as the miner’s strike unfolded
The book Milne wrote was investigative journalism. He may have had a bias. Because of his political views. Doesn't mean he lied. ( and I haven't read the book btw. Only the basis. And based on recommendation I suggested it to Jamdrop). As for Corbyn. The right wing press crucified him. People fell for all the lies. And look what we ended up with. The biggest liar in the history of parliament running the country. You couldn't make it up.
https://otjc.org.uk May be able to provide you with some useful reference points. One of my mates is involved with this.
Sorry if it's been mentioned, but there is a book called The Enemy Within by Seumas Milne - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Enemy_Within_(Milne_book). Might be worth a look. EDIT [Sorry, just read the thread now and see it's been suggested. Take this to mean a +1 to the originally suggester]
They did crucify him. That is the fate of all Labour leaders, given the country we live in. But even discounting the hideous bias, Corbyn did not help himself - or Labour - with his incompetence. He was, and is a protest politician and his leadership set the party back by at least five years. In my opInion.
I thought she did that in the 80s ... late 80s at that. She stole it off me, personally. Or that's how I remember it. No. I'm wrong. As I type, we had to pay didn't we ......... Sorry internal monologues going on as I type.
No one can help where they were born or educated. At least some had socialist ideals they stick to once they become functioning adults.
Maggie Thatcher milk snatcher was the 70s, when i was at primary school. Like the Mr Whippy as a child I'd have voted for her cos school milk was disgusting and they forced us to drink it!
Working Class History have a podcast on 'Women in the Miners Strike' which could be a useful source of information. Link
Speak to veterans who recall well about land line phones tapped . Most truths will never be put out there . Some know about cover ups . False police statements . Outrage at Orgreave just a few. The bitterness remains . God only knows when the whole truth to the 1984 crime of the Century comes to light. Some of us will die before the whole truth is released. Miners trying to preserve communities. I was there ,will I write a book. We're trying to forget can't forgive. But one day the students will find truth and justice. Not just yet.