At what point is Conway in do not include Poya in the poll

Essentially, the 'spirit' of this type of lease agreement is that the property is restored to its condition at the start of the lease, so isn't intended to cover major structural defects that aren't apparent to either party at the time the lease commences. However, if you imagine that these types of agreement are also used for big warehousing/manufacturing units where they have to take into account the fact that a lessee might put large pieces of machinery into it, which might require doing fairly significant things to the interior (i.e. fixing them down to the floor, or putting up infrastructure around them). They therefore need to cover scenarios where restoring the original condition of the site might require specific remedial work.

There's also the scenario to consider where a failure to carry out basic regular maintenance allows bigger problems to develop over time, e.g. not fixing a leaking roof causes subsequent structural issues.

If there's scope for significant disagreements of this nature to develop over the life of the lease, the chances are that the site will be subject to independent survey at the start of the lease to establish the benchmark which will be relied upon. Essentially, its the checklist that you'd do at the start of a property rental which will determine how much of your deposit is returned to you at the end of it, only done on a scale appropriate to the size and nature of the commercial property being leased.

In terms of developing / improving the site, there's plenty of scope for negotiation around this which could take place at any time, and which can be worked into an updated lease, but the issue here seems to be that the relevant parties don't have a basis on which there any trust. If you're still owed money relating to the purchase of the club, how likely are you to want to agree to develop Oakwell with the party that is withholding payments from you? As far as I can see from the available facts, it's the 80% group that need to do the work to fix that element of the relationship, but there's no evidence to suggest to us that they're doing so, or intend to do so.

 

The group currently appear to be together and playing for Poya, under Schopp they werent, we all saw it at Blackpool for example and heard the interviews on radio Sheffield, whats fantasy about that.

 

In light of recent events and threads.
I am bringing this back in regards to supporting the reds and Poya. Not the Conway out bit even though that's relevant as I've not heard a thing since we started winning a few.
Cheers

 

Bizarre. You have gone to great lengths to say that this thread is about Conway out NOT about Poya yet bring it back in regards to Poya NOT Conway.

You're all over yourself trying to play some sort of game and looking like a massive pillock every time.

 

Nothing has changed whatsoever off the field, other than the protests have become quieter. Many seem to have adopted the philosophy of, the players need our support now so get behind them; but the players needed our support at the turn of the year too when these protests became more vocal. Which to me says that a lot of people's frustration towards Paul Conway is down to the performances on the pitch. Don't get me wrong, not everyone thinks like that, but I do think a large proportion do, your poll backs that up to a degree.

 

Remember he doesn't have any opinions on anything - he said so himself in another thread.

The O.P. still seems to be under the impression that a few wins means that everyone is happy. That people will roll over to get their tummy tickled.

Well as has been explained to him hundreds of times - as long as the effort is there on the field, the fans will be behind the players. And as long as the dishonesty remains in the boardroom, the fans will rightly be angry.

Keep licking those boots.

 

Oh yes I forgot. He has no opinion on anything. Oh except he holds VERY strong opinions on how **** Barnsley fans are and how superior he is to them.

The reality is that he simply doesn't dare have any opinion that goes against his superiors. No opinion on what daddy Paul does or sir Boris or lord Vladimir. They are his superiors and he knows his place. You and I, he sees as equal or lower so has many strong opinions on whether we go to a football match or not. It's so transparent it's funny

 

I think the angst is always bubbling and always will under the current ownership. However, as long as the team is winning and putting in a shift it won't be as vocal. I suspect the vocal element is a minority anyway. I guage this by match day experience when results are bad it's an eternity before those in the stands turn on a manager.

 

My stance with business people has always been can I trust them to do whats in the best interest of the organisation they represent or have a stake in. Initially that's formed by instinct and over time it is confirmed or overturned by action, words and activity.

It's really as straightforward as that.

 

All I can say is this - it was lovely to hear those still in the stands at full time on Tuesday night belting out ‘we are staying up’. And for me to see the faces of our players upon hearing that.

I don’t overthink football. It’s an emotional game. I embrace the moments. Good and bad. Keep backing the lads.

 

Can we give credit for Quina and Bassi without licking boots?

 

Spot on ST.. One of those who for some reason thinks he's a bit smarter than everyone else and folk won't see what's he's doing.. He does play a game and looks a bell doing it.

 

Absolutely.

Two brilliant signings.