Has every one noticed how Mr Corbyn and his stop the war cronies

No harm in being sure of the facts.

 

I don't know, but the Tories still continued to gleefully accept rotten russian money afterwards.

 

Can someone please take the vote from Stairfoot.red?

 

I like digging leave my spade alone.

 

That would be one less vote for Labour

 

I'm no Tory voter I've voted labour all my life even while holding my nose when Mr Corbyn was leader doesn't alter the fact that I can't stand the bloke.

 

Everybody was well everybody apart from Comrade Corbyn

 

So you're just lashing out at someone you don't like?

Ok.

 

Just to help out. Obviously if this country goes to war it makes sense to have stop the war rallies like there were for Iraq.

 

Lets all clap for Ukraine - that should do it; after all, sanctioning Russian oligarchs is not going to stop the war, only Tory donations.

 

Then beat Stoke and by 10pm next Tuesday night we could be above Reading and we still have them to play, at home. COYR.

 

Thanks for posting that, learnt something stuff didn’t know.

 

Corbyn was attacking the Oligarchs buying political influence years ago , derided by the press at the time and by prominent Blairites like Mandleson, the same bloke who holidays with Russian Oligarchs and takes money from Russian company’s that produce the weapons to attack Ukraine . Mandy is very quiet , Starmer hasn’t chucked him out of the Labour Party

 

Can’t believe there’s a thread about Corbyn being quiet.
Seems the Tories can award themselves and families massive govt contracts .
Can lie and break laws , party while we’re almost imprisoned , take money from pensioners and the disabled whilst lining their pockets , take donations from Russian oligarchs who’s wealth is at the very least questionable.
And we still have but Corbyn threads even though he’s been irrelevant for almost three years .
Never mind I’m sure Boris will bare his arse st the next election for folk to kiss it whilst holding anti Corbyn posters .

 

That is a very sobering speech from Corbyn, and I think puts into context the history of Tory money coming from Russians, and the action of politicians from all sides in previous wars.
One thing I would disagree with though is his assertion that all wars end in a political solution. Not true. WW2 ended with the destruction of all enemy armies, The Axis forces had no choice but to surrender.
Putin the Slaughterer is not open to negotiations, the ones going on near Belarus are a smokescreen, he has no intention of giving up his war until Ukraine is totally destroyed and it's people subjugated.
A striking phrase for me was Corbyn saying that all those clamouring for war are fine when they're sending other people's children to die.
There is no easy solution to this, but the least loss of life is the sanctions route, and hopefully the enlightened amongst Russian hierarchy will eventually take him down themselves.

 

Excellent post. Didn't even realise Mandleson was still around, but i'm not surprised - locusts rarely just fly away. You couldn't make it up, the But Corbyns out in force and you've got chief adviser to warmonger Blair - both responsible for mass murder - staying quiet and out of the firing line. Some things never change.

 

WW2 was still a negotiated settlement although the German and Japanese hadn’t a pot to piss in it was still a negotiated unconditional surrender around a table .

 

It wasn't really though, was it? The "negotiated" settlement consisted of the Allies telling the Axis "We've won, you've lost, we've destroyed your armies and killed hundreds of thousands of your service personnel and civilians...and we have lots more nuclear weapons...now here's the deal..."
Funnily enough they agreed to it.
The war was already won when they sat down at the table

It doesn't make anything right or justifiable, but to say that all wars are ended by negotiation is simply not true. And won't be true in this case. The war will stop when Putin the Slaughterer decides to stop it (in my opinion of course)
If a negotiated settlement was achievable, it would have happened during the months of diplomatic efforts by virtually all of the Western allies governments, even face to face meetings with Putin by world leaders begging him not to attack.

 

Starmer brought Mandleson back as an advisor

 

The actual government who are "in charge" of making all decisions are awash with Russian money, the son of one of Putins close oligarc mates has just entered the House of Lords thanks to the Government - does this not concern you a little more then Corbyn? No? anyone there?