At what point is Conway in do not include Poya in the poll

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I don't give a toss what on-field results are achieved by an ownership group that took money out of the club for their own benefit and reported this in the same set of accounts that they referenced the liquidity challenges facing the club.

The best course of action they could take is to repay this money, and commit to not repeating the same course of action, which might make me reconsider buying a season ticket again while they remain in charge. However, they've irreparably destroyed any chance of me trusting their motives and intentions as owners.

The above doesn't change regards of whether we stay up or get relegated this season, whether we miraculously get promoted to the Premier League in our next Championship season, or whether they ultimately relegate us to the Conference League North.

 

I love this club, I have followed them all over, for a lot of years and invested a lot of time,money and emotion, my stance is what I think is best at the time.
The poor accusation of my comments being flippant is wrong because that is the last thing they are and neither is the poll. Like all my posts genuine concern for my club and I will stand up for what I think is right and true whether that is in agreement or against reasonable posters.

 

Good then voting for one of the last 2 choices aligns with your thoughts.

 

@Sheriff very eloquently put.

This is really far deeper than results on the pitch. Nobody chooses Barnsley as their team if it’s about success. @Duntpasstome I think your poll and your subsequent follow up responses speak volumes in understanding a supporters bond with their club.

 

Results on the pitch are largely irrelevant. We have yoyo'd between tiers 2 and 3 for the last 20 or so years. I support the players on the pitch and as long as they give maximum effort then I've no issue with the result.

It's the lying in the boardroom and contempt for fans that I don't like.

 

Conway is in until PMG are bought out, (and possibly the Crynes).

The rest is totally irrelevant. If anyone wants to make an offer, go for it.

 

Sorry, I do think the poll is flippant because it's slanted heavily towards results on the pitch. It comes across as highly flippant in my eyes because it purposely ignores the core issues and suggests that the only real issue fans have is with results on the pitch.
Again, there is nothing unreasonable in wanting owners concentrating on the wellbeing of the club and their interest in it.
The vast majority of opinion I've seen seems to be discontent with what is being done to the club yet, this last week, that has been disabled by petty arguments and points scoring among groups of supporters. Conway and the rest must be laughing their socks off.

 

One of which appeared some time after the poll was put up.

Not the most robust analysis to change both the initial question and available responses midway through a poll.

You don't by any chance work at No 10 do you? If not, there's someone there who could use a bit of flexibility with regard to gauging public opinion, and he seems to have a few vacancies at the moment

 

Not sure if you have missed my point. It wouldnt really be a poll using your points as it would be 99% never. I would have voted never, to slant it as I did gave it a different viewpoint which winning games is the biggest driver for fans, this poll up to now shows that this isnt the case on the BBS. In the wider group i think winning games would mean the call for Conway out wouldnt be very loud.

 

I was listening to what was being said and ammended to suit, not a bad thing.

 

I don't think you're particularly listening to what anyone is saying, as you're still being dismissive of the fact that plenty of people are telling you that short-term results don't factor significantly into their views.

Your conclusion to this is that the BBS isn't therefore representative of the wider fanbase, because the result doesn't align with your own personal view.

 

I dont know if this is a for what I am saying or against, i hope and think its for as i generally agree with your stuff. Not a problem though if it isnt as I am struggling to understand what is the general bond with our club is among fans as my views are completely opposite to others.

 

It’s both for and against. We all have different reasons which bond us to the club, hence the debate on here.

 

I agree with you that football fans can be fickle. However, the reasons you list are an important component of why fans are so disillusioned and, in some instances, angry. You can't ignore the 750k, it won't go away without an explanation or apology. Temp CEO Conway signed Oulare, it was a disastrous signing. It has taken Poya 12 games to register his first win. 12. So how can we say 'if Poya had been in charge at the start of the season instead of Schopp...' in a good light? We would probably be in a worse situation! We could stay up this year and install a successful manager a la Val and have an amazing season again next season, or we could drop down to League 1 and try and rebuild.

The thing about this model is we will have great seasons like last season and the league 1 promotion. But we will also have Struber, Schopp and Poya. We will also have staff jumping ship en masse. We will also have dud players but it was ever thus. And then we have the 750k which is inadmissible. And we have the cold nature of the player conveyor belt. It's important to note loyalty in football as we knew it is dead. Money is everything and we have a business conglomerate in charge who own multiple clubs and that goes against the nature of the people of Barnsley who are historically a community club and a community town. And no smiling CEO who is trying his best to bridge the gap between fan and owners will change that.

 

We only sing when we are winning.
Schopp had lost the players, Poya hasnt. He would have brought them together sooner and we wouldnt be playing with the season of baggage we are now.
The £750 k it their club their money.
We have always had good and bad seasons as long as I can remember, the model or Conway has nothing to do with that its if a coach and a group of players can click and push on.
Morris could have been a disaster signing if had picked up an early or reoccurring injury, no signing is a guarenteed success.
Every season i can remember over the last 15 years the team that starts the season is nothing like the team that finishes it.
There is a counter answer to every point except players respond to encouragement from the stands better than boos.

 

Disagree with your first sentence, totally agree with your last

 

Once again...those who are disillusioned are so, not because of results on the pitch. Those will always be changeable. We are concerned with what is going on off the pitch. How difficult is that to comprehend?