At what point is Conway in do not include Poya in the poll

Sorry mate, but there's not a snowball in hell's chance that Conway will ever say sorry. "Businessmen" like that never say sorry, for anything.

 

Worst. Poll. Everrrrrrr.

Haha, sorry Duntpasstome. I'm only messing.

However, on top of what others have pointed the poll also begs the question, i.e. it assumes the voter is currently Conway Out. Maybe not a bad assumption but flawed nevertheless. And to build on what others have said, if we accept that results are not what the issue is there are no options for if PMG change their model or apologise for certain aspects or sell the other clubs to concentrate on Barnsley or whatever people really think would address the issues.

 

If they stop using club money to buy the club.

If they don't purely focus on trying to sell players at the expense of results i.e changing the successful playing style of last season to what we have now.

I could go on but it has been done to death to be honest.

 

I know that, im just trying to find out if the resentment now runs so deep that it is irrelevant what success we have going forward that the answer is never because Conway got a lot of credit on here when Val was pushing for the playoffs.
I dont think it does run so deep and its results on the pitch that dictates the Conway out protests and abuse. @TitusMagee said though has made me think a bit differently.

 

Surely the football you saw yesterday was better than what Val played.

 

So if they end up being successful with the model they have and continue paying for the club with the money it generates its self we still want them out?

 

‘Never’.

win 10-0; lose 10-0. Stay up, go down. Makes no difference.

4 years is enough to come to the judgement that these owners (Conway is simply the figurehead) cannot competently run this Club, and certainly do not have its future interests at heart.

 

I know that, im just trying to find out if the resentment now runs so deep that it is irrelevant what success we have going forward that the answer is never because Conway got a lot of credit on here when Val was pushing for the playoffs.
I dont think it does run so deep and its results on the pitch that count above the majority of other things

 

Thats it thats the response I was after.

 

The question over whether the Conway Out protesters will stick by their principles of not putting another penny into the club regardless of how successful the team may get on the pitch is a good one though. Not that I'm doubting that most are sincere in what they say but it will certainly test them.

 

I’m glad I was able to help.

Let me go a bit further. If I thought never winning another game this season would help put pressure on the Owners to publicly put the Club up for sale, then I’d take that. Them leaving is the only goal for me this season. Much as I enjoyed (ish) yesterday, imo we make no progress on or off the pitch until they have gone.

 

Oh in that case.

Personally it’s not the results that I want them to go.

it’s treating us like we’re customers, the lies about improving the match day experience (probably the worst it’s ever been), the mis advertising of season tickets. Changing a winning style for a more saleable style. The best transfer window ever. The 750k, the months and months of silence. Threats to move us away from oakwell. List goes on and on.

Regardless of the league position, enough is enough for me. So I’ll probably go with the never option.

 

No, not in my opinion.

 

Never if I wanted to support a retailer I'd go cheer on Tesco's staff on a Saturday afternoon. Selling players whilst trying to achieve on field success is ok. Selling players whilst not giving a flying **** about on field success isn't ok.

 

I don't think you have any conception of why people are unhappy with the board. The flippant structure of the poll ignores a good number of the actual issues. So, no, it's not merely about winning some football games.

 

You are right I dont, If Oulare and Iseka would have been success and Poya had taken the job instead of Schopp and we were in the top ten in touching distance of the playoffs then there wouldnt be many Conway out protests irrespective of the temp closing of the West Stand, the £750K, Vals contract clause, Mowatt not signing club record wages. Football fans are fickle.

Nothing flippant about the poll, I respect the never votes as much as I respect the honesty in the other selections where some opinions will change due to success on the pitch. I dont respect never votes for the sake saying it on here then completely ignoring their principles when we are winning.

 

Not for me.

 

I'll tell you why I want the current owners to mend their ways.

I want a CEO who doesn't walk past a club flag that is virtually rotting on it's staff for weeks on end before being shamed into replacing it.
I want a ground that is safe, where the perimeter wall isn't collapsing. Where the paint isn't peeling off. Where the capacity is fully used. Where season ticket holders are not turfed out of their seats and offered alternative accommodation in some of the worst seats in the ground.
I want an administration that doesn't lie. I don't expect to know the ins and outs of the club but I don't appreciate being treated with contempt by being told that players aren't fit when, in fact, they have no visas. That stands are miraculously safe then unsafe then safe again. I strongly suspect that people like this will happily lie about far more important things.
I want the playing side to be run to a budget but not to a system that is so wilfully inflexible that it has denuded the staff of experience once and almost got us relegated and is currently in the processes of doing it again just two years later.
I want owners that are honourable enough to respect each other rather than taking each other to court.
I want owners who will actually use their own money to pay for what they bought rather than taking it out of the pockets of supporters.
I want to see an improvement in the matchday experience that was promised not some tents and flatbread.
I want to see some evidence that the club is growing and not slowly rotting on it's foundations.
So there you go. Stick some of those in the options on your poll.

 

Its on there, never.

I want a lot of stuff as well but we dont always get what we want.

Please point to the man who is going to give you everything you want. Until he comes along we are out of choices. Stupid flying paper planes, stamping your feet, storming Beths office, 30 second bursts of Conway out and a couple of pints in the Garrison changes nothing and the 27 never voters on here wont make a jot of difference either if the team are winning, the stands will fill back up again whether Conway is in out or shaking it about. Its about winning games for the mass majority, its about having a club for a lot of us and there is a very small minority like you, principles are great I have too many of them but common sense and realism defines the way i live.

 

No. It isn't on there. Never isn't what I'm saying.
I'm not going to beat about the bush, I find your flippant, off handed snide remarks about people who have a love for the club and are aghast at some of the things going off within it highly annoying.
None of the points I've made are unrealistic.
I'm not asking for untold millions to be spent, just for the club to be run honestly and with care.
You carry on belittling those who want a little more from our owners than a few results on the pitch though. Take a look at the BBS and see some of the comments from very reasonable posters not least biglil. We are all well aware of the limitations of our club in terms of size abd potential. We don't expect to be in the Premier league but we do expect that the club be run by people with its best interests at heart. THAT is not unrealistic. People like you make any concerted effort to change things nigh on impossible.