Land Reg entry for Oakwell

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  1. Red

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    I posted this in the other thread earlier, but thought it might get lost in there and could probably do with its own thread. Apologies to Admin if this is wrong, delete/merge as you see fit.

    Land Reg entry (pdf) attached.
     

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  2. jud

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    What’s your point with it?
     
  3. Red

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    A lot of people wanted to see the covenant wording.

    Now they can.
     
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  4. Stephen Dawson

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    I think that the covenant has been amended over the years so that it isn't detrimental to Barnsley F.C. It's hardly restrictive at all.
     
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    Quite a few restrictions. But without the plan and key of colours we can't see which bits refer to which bit of the land/buildings.

    It doesn't contain for example some of the things talked about in other threads
     
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  6. Red

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    I got this through my job, but unfortunately I don't get access to title plans.
     
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    This refers to the leasehold title. Presumably there is a separate freehold title showing OCAL as proprietors?
     
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    So we can see what's written in black and white rather than speculating? Thanks for this @RedVesp
     
  9. Red

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    I'll have a look when I get a sec...
     
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    Is that the right one? Just looking at the ownership
     
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    Wasn't asking for the plans mate, just referring to them.

    Appreciate you posting the document
     
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    I'd assume many could exist

    Quite a lot of land around the club, so I doubt one title would cover the whole lot
     
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  13. Red

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    Yeah I know, I was just clarifying, in case anyone thought I had access to them :)
     
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    Maybe I should’ve read the other thread that some are referring to beurre questioning the OP
     
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    What's butter got to do with it?
     
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    I can't believe it's not beurre.
     
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    does it actually say what the covenents are

    (25.03.2004) A Conveyance of the freehold estate in the land tinted blue on the title plan and other land dated 14 November 1907 made between (1) Francis Guy Senior and others and (2) The Barnsley Football Club Limited contains restrictive covenants. NOTE: Copy filed under SYK410924.
     
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    Darfield138 posted this Sept 2020, thought might be useful to add:

    So I bit the bullet and paid £3 for the Land Reg title of the freehold of the ground (SYK410924). It last swapped hands to Oakwell community assets ltd in Nov 2007 as title absolute. It also says in the charges register (where covenants are placed) that the land in that conveyance was affected by a conveyance of 14.11.1907 between a. Guy Francis Senior and others and b. Barnsley Football Club limited which contained restrictive covenants. The title doesnt state what these are, but their existence has been flagged for a potential purchaser to look into
    The point being if I can find these with a £3 check of public info then so could the new owners' Solicitors
    BUT....curiously...... I did a plan search within 5 meters of the stadium and it flagged up another title: "Land at Barnsley" under title SYK656162. A further £3 reveals this is a title qualified (meaning pre-existing rights are reserved) and has registered what looks like mineral rights (including getting at them) created 08.12.2017 reserving such estate rights as existed prior to 08.12.2017. The owner is Hardrof limited (incorporated 2014) c/o a Newcastle solicitor but companies house shows the Directors to be Christopher David Harrison and Cathrine Harrison of an office in Sollihul. (I've no idea) Cant tell over what this land relates to because no plan has been placed on Land Reg though the title refers to one.Odd coincidence on the date, Lee and co became directors of BFC on 19.12.2017
    So...they are the facts, make of them what you will. Gally, does that help if you ask more questions???
    Perhaps someone thinks Oakwell is sat on vast gold or oil deposits. Perhaps that's why the new owners got an option to buy but have found someone beat them to it.! Anyway, I'm off to bed, up early tomorrow, going down the back of the East Stand with my shovel
     
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    This is great digging! That would actually explain what the problem is. Interesting. Feel like the Supporters Trust could do with knowing that - maybe they could get it confirmed at the next meeting with the CEO or Conway
     
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    The thread was fair old size, so might be more from others in it of use too.
    I don't know how to link to it though
     

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