So after the little diversion, and an irrelevant example of a family appropriately claiming benefits, I still ask:
I would add a system where profit and shareholders supercede employees welbeing and welfare. Corporations and businesses bemoan lack of skilled workers but expect Govt and taxpayers to foot the bill for training. There used to be such things as apprenticeships, a 'paternal' approach to staff development training and genuine prospects and career development that instilled a sense of loyalty and self worth within the workforce. Hire and fire, high staff turnover, minimum wages, zero hours and large non-profit generating HR departments within companies to handle all the cr*p created by excessive legislation creates many of the problems it has to deal with has the opposite effect. In short most businesses today bemoan the lack opf skills but are not prepared to dip into their pockets to train people. There seems to be a groundswell of progressive companies who are starting to realise that the 'old ways' may actaully be better, some voluntarily and some (like many haulage companies) being forced into it due to huge shortages.
Speak to many Eastern Europeans down here and the the census between the majority is that English people are lazy and many don't work because they get free money too easily ( not my words btw before the standard pile on commences )
Never said she did nothing, said they don’t work. As RH pointed out perhaps I was being ingenious using the phrase doesn’t work, but it still doesn’t alter my original point that they get that sort of money whilst on benefits. Which was in response to another poster saying they don’t buy into some people being able to get good money.
I just stated some facts, you assumed context. Bear in mind I was responded to this from another poster. “So far as I am concerned, if anyone wants to try and make a "living" from existing on state benefits, then good luck to them. I don't buy it, because I think that would be a pretty miserable existence” And was replying to say they don’t have a miserable existence.
I used the phrase: "imagined benefit scroungers" and asked for evidence of the same. You quoted your example. I doubt anyone on here would agree with you that people in the situation you describe are in any way "benefit scroungers".
Nah then Jimmy, I see your favourite ex-Director of Public Prosecutions is after scrapping OMOV for the Labour leadership elections. That should make for a lively conference!
Keir seems a tad scared of democracy doesn’t he bless him. I’m really hoping at some point Labour remember it’s the tories they are meant to attack both their own members but seems unlikely at this stage.
I was sat at a bar the other night listening to a guy describe ‘junkie’ claimants as being on £400 a week, one who hoped he was about to have his foot chopped off cos it would get him an extra £150 a week. I reckon I have all the answers to counter his right wing nonsense, but I feel I have no way of getting it across in a way that would make him rethink.
Reminds me of a time I was on a bus in Bridlington. As it came round a corner you could see blue lights. From the top deck you couldn’t really see much – just a car pulled over and the driver being questioned on the pavement. Some folk who had about as good a view as me muttered “It’s drugs… these foreigners… drugs.” Could have been a traffic incident. Or anything. But no. Drugs and foreigners. Fact.