October lockdown

the normal time frame to produce a vaccine is about 10 years. Money and resources were thrown at this one but it will still need to be developed improved and worked on just like other vaccines are.

 

Well without any further evidence, I respectfully disagree.

 

Really?

That really makes your understanding of his post look out and out bizarre.

 

As an aside, I absolutely detest that phrase. How are you supposed to ‘learn’ to live with something that will kill you? You can’t read a book and be safe - if you’re going to die from it, you’re going to die from it and no learning will save you. If you’re healthy enough to not be at risk of dying then what are you ‘learning’ exactly?

 

In much the same was that growing up you learned that people die in other ways? Haven't you learned as you've grown to accept that death will take us all and we will lose people we love? It doesn't lesser the pain but it's something we have all learned to accept to a degree.

 

I don’t think you understand what supports means. Just because you acknowledge the possibility of something happening doesn’t mean you support it.

it’s the Govts job to determine what is needed. If they determined and showed evidence say that hospitalisations were exceeding capacity and something dramatic was needed. They could think a lockdown was needed. If they did what would your alternative be your answer cannot be to go nothing.

I’d say the above is unlikely and it’s just been drip fed to client journalists so when lesser measures are introduced (if needed) the Johnson character can play the hero.

 

a bit of a Johnson interpretation of the facts.

 

Ah, so the phrase means ‘the people who won’t die are going to have to live with the fact some people will die’?

I was reading it as a CEV person would and someone saying to them ‘if you get it you’re just going to have to learn to live with a disease that will kill you’. Which is an impossible thing to do and is all very well for a person who feels certain they won’t die to say and be all like ‘look at me, learning to live with this thing that won’t kill me’.

 

That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Accepting you will lose a loved one eventually is one thing losing one earlier from something that could possibly have been avoided most certainly does not.
It really pi.sses me off when folk come out with this kind of tripe based on no experience, talk is big without it.

 

Little reminder that you have absolutely no idea of my life experiences

 

Maybe not but if you HAD experience in such matters, you wouldn't go on about death in such a casual manner as you do

 

No not at all. I'm not saying that they should accept their own death, I'd hope they do everything in their power to protect themselves which is exactly what all the bbsers on here in that situation have done for themselves and their loved ones and they all have my upmost respect. I mean society in general because whilst the focus is on this one virus we HAVE accepted all the others as existing. The extremely vulnerable have accepted that influenza exists for example. People hate the comparison but they are both killer viruses that are preventable yet for one of them we have simply accepted it exists.

 

Well I have experiences in such matters. Maybe just maybe we are all different people

 

we must be if you can write off the loss and months of grief so easily, and if that's so I'm glad we are!

 

At no point have I ever said I can do that or that anyone else can

 

really,? because in the multitude of posts during the pandemic that's certainly the impression you give me, maybe others interpret your posts differently, but.....

 

Completely agree. I hate having my personal space invaded, as a clinically depressive person. Just pointing out the weird circle jerk of people on here clamouring for more lockdowns.

 

But.... I can tell you now your interpretation is wrong. Maybe 99.99999% of the bbs's interpretation is wrong but it still is.

 

Be great if you were a Marxist my man. We need more.

 

I'm not clamouring for more lockdowns. I lost out job wise, my son did bugger all school work, I really missed seeing my friends and family and going to Oakwell. I accepted them though because the alternative of people dying, struggling to breathe because there wouldn't be the intensive care beds was worse.