British Grand Prix..

It’s not that I don’t appreciate the expert insight on a sport I have been following since I was 9, thanks. But where is this ‘analysis’ when races are devoid of drama & incident? I don’t profess to know what it’s like to drive one of those cars.
But after 40 odd seasons watching & attending several GPs you tend to understand a thing or 2 & appreciate the wonderful F1 fan culture. Where every driver is loved, respected & referred to by their Christian names.
Max & Lewis flew off the line & both went for it possessed, like I have rarely seen. Cars heavy with fuel. I saw an accident coming, just didn’t expect it that quick. How a driver takes Kops is up to them, it’s so fast that an outside line is possible. Lewis positioned his car for the inside & Max defended. A shorter turning distance so it’s arguable who was actually in the lead. Lewis’ left front got between Max’s nearside wheels & inevitable happened.
Lewis was punished because it put Max out. If he’d stayed on track it would have been just a racing incident.

 

I could ask you where your analysis is in those races too could I not?

 

You could. It Varys between, that was fun & dull as ****.

 

Well I respect your opinion. I just don't agree. I've followed F1 around the world and other motorsports, too. And in my opinion, you can't expect to take corners like Copse with that shallow an entry and not expect to run across the circuit and into a car on the outside. It was have been impossible for him to stay to the inside and he knows it. It was Max's corner for me.

It just hit me as a very desperate move

 

There's no doubt about it, it WAS a very desperate move because right now he is desperate. He usually has the advantage of the best car and that's not currently there so he's desperate just as he was when he was racing rosberg.
That's a good thing though in my opinion. It's good that he has got the desire to make desperate moves because he could so easily not care after winning so many titles and it's good for the sport that the situation has him (and max) desperate. Of course every so often one of them will step over the line and either cause an accident or run off the track themselves but again that's a good thing as long as the stewards are sensible

 

Perhaps desperate. Max was on pole & Lewis trailing in the title race. 2 aggressive drivers, in the fastest cars. I’m just embarrassed I spelled copse so badly. I’m not from Liverpool.!!

 

What I find more embarrassing is that pathetic waste of space loser Valterri Bottas. He should have won that race today with Hamilton's penalty. Hamilton has had an easy ride for the last 5 seasons with that muppet as a team mate. He's happy to just move out of the way time after time and to ride around and pick up a pay cheque for doing **** all. Why haven't Mercedes put someone more competitive in the second car who would challenge Hamilton or has Hamilton had a big say in who his teammate is season after season. Russell needs to be in the second Mercedes car next season.

 

Quite simply because why would they do that? The perfect driver combination is one who will win every week and one who will help him win whilst picking up podiums. Guarantees you the drivers and constructor's championships. Ferrari did it for years, mercedes do it, red bull have tried to do it.

 

The only thing Lewis has been desperate for, is for someone to give him a bloody race. He’s getting one & clearly enjoying it.

 

The only thing you should be embarrassed about is your stupid lack of respect..

 

Champions win at all costs, no one remembers a loser

 

That's not true.
Sheffield Wednesday

See. I remember a loser

 

Maybe if Verstappen hadnt spent the whole lap previous swerving all over the road. The incident could have happened on almost every corner as Verstappen was all over the place , I guess Hamilton decided enough was enough.
Thats racing I guess.

Was surprises Leclerc couldnt hold on though as he had the pace early on

 

"Previous lap"? I thought it happened on the first lap. I agree MV with, by his own admission, had a car with too much downforce setup and was slow on the straights. He actually left the track at one previous corner to maintain the lead on the outside as LH had actually got the inside line and was level. If you look at the collision where people argue that Hamilton was behind as he hit MV's rear wheel with his wing...go back on the video a second and you see at the start of the corner LH WAS level, on the inside line and,critically, carrying more speed into the corner. You see Hamilton did lift fractionally as MV came across. Al he talk from stewards that LH did not use the full apex is irrelevant since MV had plenty of space on the outside at the point where the collision occured. He knew LH was there and did his usualtrick of trying to bully his opponent into yielding, which LH and a few others have already done this season to avoid an overly aggressive MV. This time LH did not yield and we saw the result. Racing incident 50/50 nothing more- nothing less. Racing F1 Politics influenced The stewards decision as it has so often done. The FIA have already skewed the season in favour of RBR with the changes in spec which hampered both Mercedes and Aston Martin due to the rake design differing from most other teams . Oh! And Christian Horner might know a lot about F1 but he is still a total 'dick'

 

To say it is 100% one driver's fault is ridiculous.

They were at each others' throats in the run up. Even the ex pros couldn't agree and the amount of replays they showed indicated it wasn't as clear cut as some are claiming.

I'd take Lando winning every time over either as a McLaren fan so have no great allegiances. It was 50-50 blame and the punishment was fair. Lewis didn't deviate at any point into the turn and Max could have given him more space but chose not to and paid the price. Tough ****. It's F1.

 

Live by the sword, die by the sword. Verstappen has no moral high ground on this whatsoever.

 

I agree, I'd feel aggrieved if I was him but like I say it was 50-50 liability IMO and Lewis was just lucky to avoid crashing out too. It was always going to happen at some point this and it will 100% happen again this season.

 

It was a great bit of racing on that first lap. After so many aggressive moves by Verstappen which led to them touching at least twice before, not to mention his past record, I can't blame Hamilton for saying sod this and defending his line.

That also shouldn't take away from his overall performance and how he hunted LeClerc down to win. Mansellesque.

 

I had a bit of a different take on it after replaying it a couple of times. You are allowed one change of course to fend off an overtake. Lewis looked to go on the outside at the approach and Max clearly moved into his path to stop him. He was carrying speed and switched to the inside. Yes he was shallow that would indicate he would exit on a wider line but max had shown him that line. On the bend itself Max then changed his line a second time from the outside line he had started taking. Lewis had carried too much speed into the bend and that was a bit reckless but Max was part of his own downfall. If you pick a line into a bend you stick to it. I think the stewards saw this too hence a comparatively light penalty. It was the second lightest penalty apparently.
On Lewis himself, love him as a driver and see some good in the lad. I take him with a pinch of salt because his fame and fortune came early in life and he, like a lot of such people, demonstrate a strange view of the world, probably surrounded by an army of hanger-on ten percenters. Two stories from the watch world last year that sum this up. He commissioned a Richard Mille watch for £1.1 million. These things are the peak of horology but manage to look like they were bought out of a vending machine in Las Vegas (google them). The second is he sued the Hamilton Watch Co. for using his name. Unsurprisingly he lost. They have been making watches since the 1890's. Elvis wore one and they supplied the British Army watches in the early 1970s before he was born. What made that even more of a d!ck move was they are now part of the Swatch group (Omega/Tissot/Longines etc). Watch companies are only slightly behind mobile phone companies for suing each other and various governments and have massive in-house legal teams. In the cossetted world of "Hamilton" nobody probably explained all this to him or if they did, he carried on with the same hubris he brought to Copse corner.