Sharing of NHS details

Show me where it says that please.

 

It doesn't say it on the NHS web site, BoJo may be stupid but he's not that stupid.
Read this in the Grauniad.

https://www.theguardian.com/society...lans-share-patient-data-third-parties-england

 

Correction, Boris probably is but the people who write the website arent!

 

Nothing scary in that report. If the NHS need data to improve then they can have mine. I honestly don't see the issue.

 

The NHS already has your data. I think there’s zero chance of it through NHS digital not being sold on to help private companies profile and target people. The sneaky and underhand way they’ve gone about it combined with the government in charge tells me that.

 

You can allow the NHS to collect your data for internal use in research and planning and opt out of sharing it with businesses. That's what I did.

 

Don't get me wrong, I hate this government with a fiery passion, but I've not seen anything, anywhere that would suggest that the NHS would be sharing my data (most of it anonymised) with health insurance companies or that this process would lead to a two tier health system.

If I start getting inundated with health related marketing calls I'll be the first person to get back on this board and tell you all.

 

But, again, there is nothing I've read anywhere that suggests these "businesses" will be using the data for targeted marketing, they'll be using it to design software for the NHS, develop new methods of patient pathways and maybe even facilities to improve inpatient care. How about faster response times for ambulances by streamlining the call taking element of the process? Data improves knowledge, and that knowledge will improve the NHS. This country is getting overrun with professional worriers and conspiracy theorists.

 

I'll start worrying when I'm contacted by the green grocers asking me to buy some onions to go with my fatty liver.

 

I have to back up what redvesp us saying. This is all about epidemiology - spotting patterns of disease and conditions in a population and allocating resources and research appropriately, it's not about direct marketing.

 

No .. I think when you look closer, there is no opt out. There's a caveat on it where an emergency/pandemic...ie Covid overrids any opt out...

 

For reference, the following page on the ICO website provides an overview on your data protection rights link

 

I never said anything about targeted marketing although that is a possibility. I was more talking about private health companies using the data to give themselves an advantage by say, improving their services in a particular area of medicine and making money from patients who would otherwise rely on the NHS. This would then result in resources being rationed in the NHS "because they are not needed any more" (as Hancock might say) leaving in the poorer sections of society to suffer on 24-month waiting lists.
It's the thin end of a very fat wedge.

 

I think that's assumptive scaremongering to to honest.

I'll go on what I've actually read rather than trying to reinterpret it into something it isn't.

 

For me it all boils down to one thing - do I trust this Government?

I'm opting out.

 

I've opted out. It doesn't put my mind at ease, though.

On one hand I'm thinking that if I stayed opted "in", even though they say it will never be sold etc, can we trust this(or any, to be fair) government not to do it anyway, either accidental or not. On the other hand, can we trust a government(again, this or any) to actually abide by it's own laws and not collect the data anyway(again, either by accident or design)?

 

I opted out due to the repeated avoidance of answering basic questions about this by Mr Hancock. Hancock refuses to answer detailed questions in both Parliament and in select Committee hearings. When someone sidesteps and waffles without providing clarity then I'm afraid I can't trust them or their motives.

 

It’s that sort of thing that’s done it for me. The very short deadline alongside the secretive way they’ve gone about it doesn’t inspire trust, does it? There should be a letter to every patient (or a text at the minimum) explaining what is happening and an option to opt in/out.

 

The issue for me is that "Service Planning" is a very ambiguous term. The way I see it that can be used for any number of things under that header.

I've opted out until it becomes clear what that entails.

 

I'm not one for telling people what they should and shouldn't do with their information, it's yours, do with it as you wish, but I do think people are too quick to demonise data sharing.

If they were sharing my data with social media platforms or financial institutions then I'd opt out in a flash.