League 1 and 2 salary cap

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  1. BarnsleyReds

    BarnsleyReds Well-Known Member

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    Scrapped after complaints from the PFA

     
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    Common sense prevailed.
     
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    Expect to see the likes of Sunderland, Portsmouth, Ipswich and Salford start to climb the leagues pretty quickly. Nothing the better funded teams dislike more than a level playing field.
     
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    Look forward to the next Bolton, Wigan, Macclesfield, Derby or Wednesday type scenario when players aren't getting paid...... At a time when the majority of the EFL clubs are struggling anyway. If that's the PFAs idea of looking after its members then I'd truly like to see their reaction when another club goes out of business and 20odd of its members are unemployed.
     
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    I didn't think it would last long, although I thought it would've lasted longer than six months.

    This salary cap didn't really make sense. You can't expect a team with average crowds of 30,000 to be restricted in the same way as a team with crowds 90% smaller. I'd like to know how many teams in League One were actually paying below the £2.5million cap before this was voted in.
     
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    You can if you still want them to have a league to play in
     
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    It wasn't introduced because of COVID though, was it? If it was, I could understand it a bit more.
     
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    Why? League 1 and league 2 already have excellent systems in place to prevent overspending. 60% of turnover in wages and not a penny more or something isn't it? Why does it then need a squad cap as well when it already had one?

    What would be far more beneficial would be banning add-ons and having some way of making transfer fees linked to turnover too
     
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    Same reason moan about parachute payments in the Championship
     
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    Again though I think that's a different issue.
    Parachute payments are a good idea in theory. They allow promoted clubs to sign players without worrying about getting relegated and being stuck with contracts they can't afford. The problem is the implementation of them.

    I've always said that they should only last for 2 years after a relegation because a 3 year contract is long enough for any relegation threatened club to sign players on and should only be allowed to be used to fund the wages of players already at the club so if a club is relegated with a wage bill of £15m a year then they can have parachute payments of £15m a year for 2 years. Sell or otherwise release any of those players and their wages are removed from the payment.

    If your wage bill is £15m then you get (roughly) £300k per week into your clubs bank account via parachute payments.
    If you sell your star striker in January who was on £100k a week then from that date onwards your payments drop to £200k a week.
    Release your left back in June who is on £20k a week and your payments drop to £180k per week.
    Sign a new left back to replace him. Tough. No change to your payments as it was your choice.

    It's obvious to me that it would help level things up massively whilst also providing the necessary protection to promoted clubs and allow them to sign players.
     
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    The good old PFA. There's nowt wrong with the game as long as our members can continue to earn obscene amounts of money and contribute to running clubs into the ground.
     
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    fair enough but I just think that as long as smaller clubs try to gamble to compete there is an increasing chance of being sucked into the mire
     
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    There is, that's why I think the original league 1 thing was the best kind. It was just not managed or policed properly because the efl was involved as always
     
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    mind you I also think it’s lunacy the amount of money very ordinary players think they are worth
     
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    Probably the fairest I've ever seen.

    It doesnt cover the clubs already in the premiership who havent only just been promoted. So would have to have something along those lines too.

    But it will never change because it's the clubs themselves that ultimately vote on it isnt it?
     
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    Footballers are the workers.
    I disagree with this. Football is one area in our capitalist society where the workers actually reap the top rewards. I do however agree that the top wages are ridiculous.
     
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    The parachute payments need scrapping. They just reward failure. The prize of a single year in the PL is way too much alone imho. Always touted the Championship play off final as 'the worlds richest game'.........

    By finishing bottom like Sheff Utd probably will awards you more coin than most L1 2 clubs budgets.

    If a club isn't savvy enough to design and negotiate contracts with massive wage drops and penalties written in then they deserve to get shafted and not assisted.

    Bonuses for staying up then yes fair enough. Players rewarded for success not failure. The following years PL money just for been in the division would easily substantiate that.

    FFP was introduced so a salary cap shouldn't really be needed anyway. But that's another story .............
     
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    Not so sure I agree Churton. ( although I understand your reasoning behind it.) Footballers will go wherever they can reap the biggest rewards. It’s down to the clubs to manage sensibly, not the PFA, If a players demands can’t be met. You move on to the next one.
    Barnsley. for all the negativity pointed their way, act in what appears to be a sensible manner.
     
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    In my opinion Helen, footballers earn too much money in the top two divisions plus the bigger clubs in the third. They hold clubs to ransom, use the fans' loyalty and ambitions as leverage and, at the end of the day, it's us fans who have to pay the bill. The huge salaries come straight out of our pockets.
    I've said numerous times here that I don't blame them for asking for the money. That's a lot different to being comfortable with the fact that they get it.
    There's a fair percentage of fans at every club, including ours, who would happily pay whatever the players ask. That would have paid Conor Hourihane 20k a week plus to stay. Some clubs bow to that pressure. Most do. And some go under. Do the players give a damn? No. They just move on to the next club.
    just my opinion. :)
     

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