Handforth Parish Council Planning & Environment Committee Zoom Meeting

We're going back to the summer and you're reactions to BLM. I do believe that you honestly can't see the problem and unfortunately that sums up what I mean as white male privilege. You're not able to walk in someone else's shoes.

 

Strange viewpoint to take if you aren't sure whether she has actually done anything wrong or not. Then again, you do have form for being tommy opposite for the sake of it? The way they speak to her is disgraceful and isn't justified in any context.

 

Ironically neither can you.

 

I can see your viewpoint.

 

What I meant was who was more in the wrong.

What I do know is that he was the chairman. The law states he chairs the meeting if present.

She wasn't the proper person. The law states she cannot declare herself as such.

They both act disgracefully. Her in her refusal to accept she doesn't know or understand the law, is acting illegally and then by unilaterally deciding to ban various councillors from the meeting.him by raising his voice and allowing his anger to take over (same with others)

 

But you instantly dismiss it. Why do you believe you can see mine but have decided I can't see yours? I said they both act poorly, you maintain your stance that it's all about the white male due to his privilege. In honesty which of the two of us is seeing both viewpoints most there? The one saying it's all about the white male or the one saying it's about both?

 

as I understood it she's been asked to chair because of previous unorderly behaviour at the last meeting?

 

Can you not see that the way she spoke differed to the way they spoke?

 

This has got to be one of the best threads I’ve read in sometime. Starts off taking the pi$$ out of the Parish Council and then.......turns into it!

 

But that's not how it works. You can't just ask a random person to chair the meeting. If the chairperson is present then they chair the meeting, it is written down and the rules which is exactly what he was saying to her.

The back story is that the chair refused to hold a meeting which had been called and so as per the law they were then allowed to call a meeting and hold it with 2 councillors calling the meeting but if the chairperson is present they are still the chair

 

Jackie may be in the wrong (I don't know the full story) but he is still an aggressive knobhead who shouldn't be in a position of authority.

 

Helen/ST.

Can we just arrange a Zoom call for those BBS colleagues that are on the Board at the moment, and we can continue the discussion.

I can act as the Monitoring Officer, but we will need to elect a Chair.

 

You were unsure who was in the right about half an hour ago? How come you're so convinced now?

 

Yes it did differ, I've said they were wrong to get angry. But is that out of exasperation that someone is hijacking the council meeting and refusing to listen? They're both in the wrong, her actions are no less acceptable than his despite her tone. He gets angry, unacceptable. She mocks him, unacceptable. She hijacks a meeting, unacceptable. She unilaterally bans councillors. Unacceptable.

None of them look good and siding with her simply because he's a white male is bizarre.

 

Research and further reading of the relevant rules

 

Lol

 

He is. Shouldn't be in that position at all if he can't act responsibly. Looks to me like quite a few of them should be thrown off the council to be honest

 

Hope they were sacked....

 

Ignore - seems it’s all sorted.

in other news did anyone see her on telly this morning. Brilliantly using the attention this has created to promote the nationwide campaign to make local councils more diverse.

 

Chairman of Meeting
6. The Chairman, if present, shall preside at a meeting. If the Chairman is absent from a meeting, the Vice-Chairman, if present, shall preside. If both the Chairman and the Vice-Chairman are absent from a meeting, a councillor as chosen by the councillors present at the meeting shall preside at the meeting.