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  1. Farnham_Red

    Farnham_Red Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    The problem is lack of clarity though whats the definition of local 7 miles is a bit in a grey area also I can walk to a village green 200m away which is usually quite crowded or the woods half a mile away which are less crowded - I could even walk from there to a huge common about 3 miles further away but need to walk down a few narrower paths or I can drive to the common where once you leave the car park you can avoid going within 10m of anyone else with no problem at all
    If there are clear rules its easier for everyone to follow them - but I think they need to be sensible - for example saying you must walk from home can easily force you onto narrow footpaths where you come into contact with others and cant keep a distance - where a short drive opens up much safer walking.
     
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    It doesn't help that the rules in England are different to the rules in Wales or Scotland too. Anyone living on the border could do something legal on one side that isn't on the other. There are also places in the UK where it is 5 miles+ to the nearest village.

    But yes, the rules should be defined and be a lot less vague.

    Last weekend we took our daughter back to university in Wales. According to the Welsh rules, it is legal provided she has Covid tests this week. According to the English rules, we couldn't work it out. We even emailed her Senedd member for advice and she didn't know either. We shouldn't need to cross-check two sets of rules that are open to interpretation - and at times contradictory.
     
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    I'm no Johnson fan as many of you might have guessed but a bike ride of less than 7 miles is no ride / exercise at all.
     
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    Downing Street refused to confirm deny, he'd been driven there. London is not short of parks and roads to cycle in/on!
     
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    That's exactly the issue. I don't know about your area, but distancing just isn't happening here. I can't comment on mask wearing indoors as I only have one trip to a small pharmacy every month or so.

    I decided to drive the car round the block to turn the engine over as it hadn't moved for about 6 weeks. Probably a round 2-3 mile trip starting and ending at my front door.

    The roads were heaving. The shops that were open had huge queues and i drove past 2 parks and there were tonnes of people and seemingly quite a few groups, either in the park or just walking around.

    The seriousness of this phase just isn't cutting through to the degree it did in March/April.
     
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    Agreed. People should know what to do by now but lockdown fatigue, different and changing tier levels (leaving aside some folks’ stupidity) have brought us to this. The government’s communication has been appalling as well. Surely this should have been presented as a national lockdown: give a reminder and simple rules.

    “We’re in a worse position that we were last March so we’ve got to have the same lockdown. Follow distancing guidelines, wash your hands. Work from home wherever possible. You’re only allowed out for essential shopping. Masks to be worn in shops. Exercise limited to one hour a day, walking from your doorstep. Support bubbles remain in place”

    Don’t talk about exceptions (some won’t follow the rules but that’s human nature.) And position this as a fight against the virus where everyone has to play their part. Stick to one message and constantly repeat it everywhere.


    Together we’ll win. Do your bit!
     
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    It varies where I am if I go to my local village green you wouldnt think we were in lockdown, kids playing parents standing in groups chatting
    everywhere else is pretty good though - if I walk in the woods or common almost everyone is being careful to avoid getting close -just the occasional family with kids seem oblivious
    my local shops are good - people queue sensibly spaced outside and only 2 allowed in our butchers and bakers at once and so staying 2m apart is easy - also they leave the doors open so good airflow
    The supermarkets are less safe Most are well behaved but a sizeable minority just push past you pick up and put down veg etc not too bad if you can ensure you are there at the quieter times - Monday or Tuesday at 7:30pm seems a pretty decent time
     
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    Its all very surreal that I've not been in a supermarket since early March. I used to shop daily before to get things for that days dinner with it being just 5 mins walk away. i'm sure its improved since, but that day was carnage and there was no way I'd be going in again as long as we could get online slots which we've always managed thankfully because of the shielding list.

    There was a huge queue at a bakery in the village that must have had 30 people in it. The issue seemed to be the bottleneck at the door and people werent wearing masks as they queued but then quickly put them on as passing through the door. (Granted I only saw for a few seconds as i drove by).
     

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