With almost as year to make plans how has our government so massively ****** up the vaccine rollout?

But the people who developed it and tested it who we are ignoring probably have an idea.

 

Not the experience of where the mrs works. Weekends are often the busiest times.

 

It is not being represented as wrong to prioritise a first jab.

And anyway that's all a side issue. Fact is when it comes to rollout we're doing pretty well so far.

 

19 folk an hour is good going 1 every 3 minutes as O/P seen how fast pensioners move, some folk just like moaning

 

This^
And the other bottleneck is the certification process, each batch has to be checked and certified as safe, this process isn't quick, and there aren't a massive number of people qualified to do it.

In an ideal world we'd be doing over 2m a week, but I suspect we'll never get close to this number. Whether we could have planned to overcome those bottlenecks though? I suspect we should have been able to - but admittedly my project planning experience is thin.

 

For an entire town?

 

I was behind an old dear in supermarket once, took her 10 minutes to buy a milk loaf, tin of spam and some jammy dodgers,they get more done a hour younger patients get, take ages to roll cardy sleeve up with all them scotties up sleeve

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ly-likely-Britons-face-annual-Covid-jabs.html

Annual jab, no idea about immunity, no idea about ability to spread it, masks probably next winter and no sign of social distancing ending even when millions have had the jab. What a awful year in prospect even when vaccinations get speeded up.

 

I'm not disagreeing that the rollout is far too slow, just wanted to comment on this bit. In school, you were a captive audience who were all taken to where they were doing the vaccines together bang on time, lined up and marched in one after the other to sit down, have it done and get up and leave as if you were on a conveyor belt. I'm also almost certain you wouldn't have had 3 classes done in 40 mins. That is very different to people aged 80+ having to arrive for an appointment, having a pleasant chat and asking questions, the time it takes for them to walk into the room, sit down, present an arm, have it done, get back up and walk out all whilst not being able to have many there waiting at once due to social distancing, which is even more important at their age. There's no point given them a vaccine if they're at more risk of catching Covid going for it because there's 90 of them crammed into a room waiting to go in next.

 

Two words... Daily and Mail. Not known for their general optimism or truth....

 

this is what I meant

 

The usual nonsense from you.

Look beyond the shores. EU - France Netherlands in particular - have royally screwed up. UK and USA are way ahead of the curve. More people have received the vaccine in the UK than all of the EU countries combined. But don't let your anti Govt bias get in the way of the facts.

 

In Germany they've had to throw quite a bit of the Pfizer vac away due to being unable to keep the temperature low.

 

not recommended as untested is as damning as scientists usually get. Many scientists have also said that this also approach increases the likelihood of further mutated strains. So not a side issue.

 

Forgive me if I disagree.

 

What puzzles me is the shortage of containers/vials to put it in.
The vaccine has been under development for a year, and both the laboratories and the government knew that at some time it would be approved, and there would be a need to supply the vaccine to 68 million people. It's been known for a year!
Why weren't the orders placed for 68 million needles a year ago?
To have the vaccine available but not the means to administer it in numbers due to vial shortages is a disgrace

 

I wasn't suggesting doing the same with the elderly. What I was saying was that 19 people per town per hour is not enough, I simply said how many a school can do to prove how ridiculously low the numbers are but yes that is how many they did because to this day I remember which lesson it was that got cancelled (it was PE) and could tell you the 3 classes who were involved. There were a number of nurses used I recall.

 

Exactly

 

Busiest in what way? The emergency department, wards or scheduled operations etc?

 

They also have to keep you there for 15 minutes afterwards to make sure you don't suffer a reaction.