You remember we were promised workers rights etc were safe after Brexit

The more worrying thing is that in a zoom call with 250 business leaders, DePfeffel asked them what EU laws they wanted repealing.

Hannan is a nutjob without any true influence or power and always has been. However, seeing as DePfeffel is extraordinarily somehow PM....

 

How many Labour MP’s would have voted for Mays version even if Corbyn had supported it , it’s quite frankly unbelievable the nonsense that’s spouted by Corbyn haters who are as bad as the nutters we’ve got in Government in rewriting history and you think Hannan is a t.wat

 

Conservatives and workers rights. **** me yer having a laugh. Take a look around and open yer feckin eyes n ears. I feckin hate the Tory party. The party for the gullible and I’m alright jack **** anyone else.

 

I've said it before and I'll say it again "get behind the leaving the EU, It's happened. Let's all come together give our country a chance and if in a couple of year's me and all the people that voted leave where wrong then fine the people that wanted to remain can all say we told you so". We have had enough of all this rubbish since 2016. We know you're not happy you made that very clear in the last 4 years trying to overturn the result of the referendum.

 

I suppose this should be a separate thread but it’s been in the press today that Leave.EU has transferred it’s registration to Repubic of Ireland, our EU member neighbours. Ironic init???

 

Get behind how exactly?

 

This was one of my main worries when Brexit was voted through, how many Brexiteers have voted their kids down the river.

 

If I remember correctly quite a few of them on here seem to claim that this second massive recession in ten years will somehow give their kids a better future.

Difficult to know whether or not to believe them - they probably said the same about tuition fees and austerity!

 

To do it's normal business yes....this is was never planned for.

I'm afraid it's not as straightforward as that, the law is fiendishly complicated, so much so that most EU countries were struggling with it...in May the EU produced this document to try and make sense of it.
fra-2020-coronavirus-pandemic-eu-bulletin-may_en.pdf

That was largely around various contact tracing apps, most of which seemed to have failed to one degree or another...Germany's attempts were best but few people seem to know it collapsed in the late summer....although not down to GDPR as far as I know.

The problem here is that everyone is frightened of being the one to make the breach, so much so that inaction seems to be their best option. A good system would have identified positive cases through the testing stations, shared their details with other public bodies to follow up with the track and trace calls, plot the addresses to look for hot spots and employ for instance Councillors and Council Officers to make the calls, or use the army of people who volunteered to assist.
As it is you could have an outbreak of cases on a particular street or block of flats in a Borough and the authority will not know, the only exception to that was care homes and that information was several months late in coming, meaning that unafflicted agency carers were being sent to homes where the virus was active, the next week to a home that previously had no cases.
I know one of Yorkshires Directors of Public Health, It was September before he was allowed to know the postcodes of individual cases....not the names, addresses or phone numbers etc...just the post codes. Its been a complete farce due to Gdpr, whether that is due to wrong implementation, over complication of the rules or simply fear of being the person who gets it wrong I can't say for certain.

 

Apparently they couldn't be called Leave.eu without an EU registration address.

 

Brilliant!!!!

 

Now we’ve left the EU I demand an English vaccine! Think I’m kidding?
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-tees-55579004

Some local patients have turned down an offer this weekend of getting a Covid vaccine when they found out it was the Pfizer one. 'I'll wait for the English one’

 

At the time of the vote,there was real concern within the PCP,that it would pass. Current PM called it a polished turd,the ERG eere totally against it too, if it went through them Theresa May would be strengthened against the ERG. Advisers and Party managers in the Labour party told Corbyn the benefits of voting with the government. He listened to his small coterie of advisers, who like him are ideologically opposed to the EU. The result was a 3 line whip to vote against it, with some half baked reasons. It didn't pass ,TM was mortally wounded as PM and the rest is history. I'm not a nutter as implied or a Corbyn hater but do know what was happening in the Parliamentary Labour party at the time and what was said to Labour MPs. Many of those MPs lost their seats in the following election, the most Right Wing PM in my lifetime at the helm. Can we say with hindsight that the decision taken at the time was the right one? History will decide.
Even if the Pandemic hadn't happened, would the future of the UK be optimistic?
The hypocrisy of Hanaan of other Brexiteers ,becoming MEPs and taking a salary from a organisation they derided.
Being brought up different, that's why I feel free to abuse him,I could do worse and physically attack him,which would you prefer?

 

Well done. Take back our patronisation.

 

And it worked out for Corbyn how, exactly?

 

Just belieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeve.

literally.

 

I don't know how close you've ever worked to any government contracting, but I suspect I may have more actual experience.

And I can tell you categorically, that sharing personal data between govt departments and contractors (within GDPR guidelines) is a very commonplace occurrence.

 

I partially blame Corbyn (as well as that **** Cameron) for the referendum result in the first place. His campaigning was half-arsed because as you say he was ideologically opposed to the EU in the first place. Had we had somebody in charge of the Labour party who was actually pro-Europe and had actually campaigned properly for it, we wouldn't be in the mess we are in now.

 

For exactly how long do we have to see what is plainly in front of our noses before anyone concedes it wasn’t the right decision?

Even a decent proportion of those who voted for it are already dissenting at the issues which are a direct result of Brexit.

It isn’t about trying to overturn the result of a referendum. It isn’t about saying ‘I told you so’. It isn’t about being right or wrong - though I feel that has already been proven, though you clearly don’t.

It’s about what this country is now and will become over the next five to ten years; how it will effect me and more importantly my kids as they grow up and go to uni or get jobs in the next decade.

There are no sunlit uplands here. British manufacturing might increase a little (I doubt it), but if it does it will be due to the erosion of basic rights; there for example may be no minimum wage, reduced holiday provision, no sick pay, little or no pension provision, reduced safety legislation.

I don’t think we need to highlight the fishing issues.

Importing and exporting goods is no longer as cheap or easy as it was; we don’t know how the financial services industry will be affected (but we ought not to be too optimistic there), and obviously there is going to be a huge deficit and national debt to service, under the most far right U.K. government I’ve seen in my lifetime.

They won’t make the money back by taxation, they aren’t going to bite the hand that feeds them; we will have austerity for decades if they get their way. Cuts, cuts, cuts. The north will be neglected to a grave extent. When this was done in the eighties and nineties we got funding to regenerate areas and so on, attract business and jobs, from the EU. How much do you think a Tory government will follow the eu example and throw anything our way? Behave.

And with the level of dissatisfaction in Scotland which Brexit has added to exponentially, labour are never going to get their MPs back up there - so what is the realistic possibility of a non-Tory government? I can’t see it happening soon.

So all this ‘give it a few years and see what happens’ - ok. In your view, and I don’t know what your motivation was for voting to leave the EU, in the best case scenario what does the future look like? What improves for the U.K.?