OH dear! What a ridiculous headline...

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  1. Tarntyke

    Tarntyke Well-Known Member

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    Schools don’t pay for it as far as I’m aware. People have been blaming parents about basic things such as holding cutlery. I’ve pointed out that it’s not always as simple as that. The point is, it’s too easy to blame parents for these kind of things and people need to be aware that there could well be other issues. Tech also provides tools for children to improve their fine motor skills. Too much generalisation as usual
     
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    Fair point.
     
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    They should stop trying to be so left wing and be more impartial.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...comedians-comparing-EU-withdrawal-cancer.html
     
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    good point,just makes you appreciate how much a school does in a day
     
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    my niece was for a number of years and her kids would be a credit to anyone.
    Not saying it was easy and not saying schools don't help, but lets be honest in general we are talking about a certain kind of parent here.
     
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    I agree that Kuensberg seems to have a position where she can do what she wants. They introduced some rules recently about not breaking news on Twitter first - interesting to see if she’s included in that.

    Even she isn’t strictly biased though. She treads a fine line by reporting with the balance of opinion in parliament etc. She puts too much opinion in, but she does criticise both sides often.

    Imagine what happens if the BBC becomes an independent news outlet! A truly biased outlet is a completely different kettle of fish to one that aims for neutrality but sometimes gets it wrong. At least the BBC has a broad range of voices appearing regularly.
     
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    Interesting idea to finance it like a tax instead, I like it. It’s a regressive tax as it stands - hits poorer people hardest.
     
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    you make good points
     
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    i agree the license fee is outdated and needs to change, I’m not of the opinion the BBC is useless however it produces some fantastic TV and Radio. But do we consume media the same way as we did 40 years ago?

    The argument seems to centered on the news and a severe dislike of its reporters, which both the left and right thinks bats for the other side!

    maybe a general taxation could work, maybe a pay for the bits you use like sky subscriptions. Maybe people just want something for free, I don’t know what the answer is, there’s probably never going to be one.

    If we end up with some form of subscription I guarantee prices will rise. The radio will be the biggest loss if we end the license fee.
     
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    Was your niece a single parent who had to work during the lockdown of schools?

    And no, we're not talking about a certain type of parent, we're talking about the situation due to the lockdown of schools that could affect anyone.
     
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    Since 2017 the government chooses a substantial proportion of the BBC board. There's not even that much pretending.
     
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    I made a complaint of bias against Kuenssberg too - I got (worryingly quickly I thought) a response to say that she had not broken any editorial codes, had displayed or implied no partiality and had no evidence to support my accusation.

    This is the same unbiased political editor whom the bbc trust concluded had misreported on Corbyn - (a finding then laughably rejected by bbc news! Got to love the bbc, self governance, and when they find against themselves they can just reject the findings and move on... nothing to see here...), and then quickly and publicly wrote Cummings defence for his Barnard Castle jaunt; the same one who is clearly quite chummy with the upper echelons of the Tory cabinet.

    She grills them, don’t get me wrong. She’ll highlight issues along the way - but nothing that is strong enough to hurt them.

    For years the bbc has been accused of being left biased - never saw that myself but it is true that has been said - yet their main player in politics broadcasting seems clearly to me to be very right leaning.

    In all fairness she’s on a salary almost twice that of the prime minister, is married to a high earning city of london management consultant, and is directly descended from a high court judge. I’m not sure she was ever likely to be anything but a Tory - but she should not be in the role she is for the publicly funded broadcaster if she can’t actually provide the balance and unbiased approach she professes she does.
     
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    It’s strange that I have heard both the left and right complaining about Kuenessburg... almost as if both sides get angry if she reports anything bad about their party.

    Personally don’t like her as she always appears to be sneering about whatever she talks about.

    As for the OP, the article is accurate and balanced. The issue being that it does absolve any responsibility from the parent. The lockdown has had big issues on students. The biggest though is in social skills that can only be gained by interactions with peers at school.
     
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    It should be nothing to do with lockdown. Parents should not send their kids to school to learn how to use a knife and fork. What are the parents doing from tea time to night time? Do they not eat.

    I’m not normally one to blame parents I know some struggle. Not asking them to tutor their kids to be a genius I’m talking about teaching the own kids the basic skills to fiction in life
     
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    Great numbers of children aren't brought up for and cared for in the way they should be. Schools and nurseries fill the gap the best they' can in these circumstances. If kids aren't in schools due to lockdown then the gap isn't filled. That is what the article is citing.

    One thing the Blair government did do well imo was the sure start centres. They allowed the parents to be supported in parenting skills that they lacked because they didn't have them passed down to them.
     
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    This is exactly the point. Politicians from both side attack the BBC for being biased towards their opponents, when they are actually being independent and non-partisan.
     
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    Whether single parent or not the child has not been left home alone during lockdown. The child has not lost the ability to tell who ever is caring for them that they need the toilet. They have not stopped eating. Surely the haven’t stopped eating meals that require a knife and fork all throughout lockdown.

    I just don’t believe that lots and lots of kids should regress in these skills through not going to school. They are everyday tasks which are required school or not. Single parent or not. If a kid is picking food of plate with fingers it’s the parents/carers duty to tell them it’s wrong not let them get on with it

    If the article said stuff like fasten show laces as they are kept a in doors all day I could understand
     
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    Kin ell, you’ve not read anything in this thread have you?
     

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