OH dear! What a ridiculous headline...

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  1. Brush

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    This aught to be covered by highway laws in the same way that it's an offence to use a phone whilst driving. I remember a case from a couple of years ago where a cyclist hit a young woman pedestrian who had her face in her phone and simply walked in front of him. In that particular case, the cyclist was (perversely) blamed and was substantially fined. He did nothing wrong; didn't go too fast, didn't run a red light and didn't have defective brakes.
     
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    But the report also said this. Something you’ve chose to ignore as well. Something that obviously doesn’t fit your opinion so you’ve just used the part of confirmation bias and said bad parents produce bad kids


    “There are also children who found the lockdown a positive experience - these children, from supportive but not necessarily well off backgrounds, might have benefited from a greater sense of togetherness with parents and "quality time" as a family“
     
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    Personally I would rather we go all out to help vulnerable children rather than let them suffer and say "well it's the parents fault"
     
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    Football coverage (actually sport in general) is one thing the BBC has completely lost it's way on. You didn't answer my question though. What is going to replace the BBC?
     
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    so schools closed before a kid even starts school means that kid arrives on his first day aged 4 in a nappy????????
     
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    children in need had millions and millions off the public
     
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    People need to think carefully when they’re brandishing the poor/bad parenting card when it comes to child development and so-called basic skills or otherwise. Is it down to bad parenting that they don’t diagnose that their child has certain problems such as struggling with fine motor skills such as holding a pen, holding a knife and fork in a way that doesn’t make it awkward for the child. Many children are recommended by their school to see a specialist/therapist for the aforementioned and other reasons. These professionals point out things to parents that often go unnoticed and are often linked to other ‘issues’ Many are diagnosed as being on the Autism spectrum/scale. Schools are excellent with this therefore if your child needs this further support they will have been missing out due to the Pandemic. I am speaking from experience
     
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    O
    Oh dear
     
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    a self funded organisation that does not take 15 pounds a month off people who can not afford it,could spend that on their kids maybe?
     
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    Whilst in the past I'd be tempted to agree with you the problem is that people like kuntsberg and over blatantly biased reporters have been allowed to rise to positions of great power unchecked and while having these positions have been allowed to do as they please. There's no point pretending an organisation has neutrality in its rules if the people in charge of working to those rules do not care about them.
     
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    Undoubtedly true. I'm not sure why you've taken against me in such a way, all was basically saying was that the article seemed ok, I didn't praise it to the hilt neither did I go out of my way to praise the BBC. Debate today seems to have broken down into name calling, there's little or no actual debating.
     
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    good point, but most schools have no spare money for this,no one blaming parents, I am blaming tech and how easy it makes it to waste away a day,its just how Society is now,people can not even go for a meal, not that we can now sadly, without being all on phones,there really is a new normal even without pandemic
     
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    why you oh dearing me, thats good, what you doing to help vulnerable children, do not get mad on here often, but what you oh dearing about?
     
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    So according to the article the checks of the schools was done in autumn.
    That means the kids had been at home with parents during a six week period of school holiday not long before that.
    Did these parents not realise that their offspring were lacking in the normal social graces during that period or would it offend their poor parenting skills if they had to admit their failings.
    For pitys sake stop blaming everybody else, take responsibility for your actions or lack of them as parents.
    Take a look at the world. Isnt it strange that human beings are the only species that seem to want to pass the buck to someone else and then bemoan other's faults. Humans are also the only species that know how to lie.
     
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    Spot on, my eldest with Autism would entertain using cutlery at home. School taught him, they also supported him learning to use the toilet, which came late to him due to his disability. It will be the most vulnerable children who suffer most from these measures.
    The attitude of some folk is rather depressing to say the least.
     
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    A truly independent self financing organisation? It would have to rely on advertising and inevitably it's independence would be undermined by that, for example they might take a stance against gambling and judging by the amount of gambling advertising, they would instantly be in the clarts. The real solution would be to abolish the TV license and simply fund the BBC out of general taxation, that way those that can afford the most would pay the most. The poorest would pay little or nothing.
     
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    Taken against you? no ones taken against you I replied to a message on a message board mate!

    So anyway if If that’s all true, why major on the bad points in the article. You even called parents feckless (and then moaned about name calling) there’s a rush to blame bad parents from the OP to some of the comments here, the article is balanced, undoubtedly there are bad parents but there are many millions of good ones. It says that but it’s ignored. Probably because it isn’t sensational enough to the OP.
     
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    brilliant idea
     
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    anyway this thread as inspired me to do something off to paint a wall, enjoy your day everyone:)
     
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    But that's not what the Ofsted report says, it says they have regressed, that some were toilet trained, but are now wearing nappies. If you train your child and the establishment you take them to continues that training everything is OK. If that closes, but you still have to work, so you take your child somewhere that is drastically understaffed, who, instead of taking your child to the toilet when they ask find it easier to just put them in a nappy, then that skill is lost. That's what this report is highlighting. That nurseries and schools continue the training put in place by parents. That these establishments are vitally important for the development of the child in tandem with parents and that closing them can be hugely detrimental.
     
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