To be honest with thi kid I just can't get my breath with you your just after an argument get a gip, whats bombing the F**k out of us to do with this thread and if I miss an apostrophe off a post then who gives a T0ss. In 1984 I was 35-year-old with a young family working at Dodworth Colliery I came out on strike to save my and my fellow workmate's jobs and suffered for it in more ways than you think but that's private, I've won more meddles at Football and other sports than Prince Charles as got wrapped around his Army coit but my biggest achievement was staying on strike for 12 months I would have sooner died than scab and if I want to call anyone a scab I will so take thee hook I don't want to hear from thee ageean
the vast majority of forest fans will be under 40, have no recollection of the strike, may not have family who worked in the industry, yeah let's call them collectively scabs, brilliant, nice one ( raised eyebrows) wonder if the ones calling them scabs chant nazis to all Germans based on the actions of a minority,
Leeds , Sunderland among others and I’ve also been told that Gillingham Fans gave it large at Notts County and Mansfield along with Chesterfield . Ps That’s Chessy fans giving it large to nots fans not Gills v Chessy .
Football fans tend to be proud of their town or city. The chant reminds them their town or city's history is nothing to be proud of. I'm amused how so many people attempt to deconstruct the scab chant, but don't with any other. I don't see anyone arguing that not every Sheffield resident pronounces their 'thee' as 'dee' for instance. I think it says more about their politics to be honest.
Agreed. But the name was given long before 1984. It goes back to the early 1900s - and as such it is part of the history of the union movement - and as such should NEVER be forgotten.
I can think of a much better description mate. But I may get banned. A glib remark. From the mind of a 2yr old. Sorry that’s a disservice to 2yr olds. Uneducated ***** shall we say.
Well we can agree to disagree on this Marlon. Different points of view and experiences but we'd both like a similar world. As I said I did see conditions underground first hand and was shocked. They could have paid me £1000 a week and it wouldn't have been enough. Anyway, fabulous win yesterday. Up the reds.
Not just 84 either, my late father in law was in the 1926 strike and he told me they scabbed then and in a later strike as well, they have form it seems.
Yeah, I was aware of that Helen. I’ve always felt the big mistake made was not bringing new industries in gradually to replace the industry, but have never heard an ex miner say it, so didn’t want to assume.
Never forget that when I first had a pint in my local Miners Club, two lads walked in supporting an old boy between them. He had what appeared to be an uncontrollable shake. As they approached the bar, a group of lads sitting in the corner started chanting SCAB, SCAB, SCAB whilst banging their fists on the table. One of their number shouted to the Steward that if he served the old boy, him and around thirteen others would leave. To prevent any further confrontation, they sensibly decided to leave. Turned out that the old boy had been involved in an accident at the local pit when the cage hit the pit bottom leaving him with a condition not dissimilar to Shell Shock in service personnel. As a result, he had to work on the surface which caused financial hardship for him and his family. During what was an unofficial strike, he had unfortunately decided to ignore the Unions advice and went back to work, thus breaking the strike. I remember that he was ostracised everywhere he went and to his dying day, was barred from every pub and club within a wide radius of our community. Countless former Miners who returned to work in the 1985 strike are still suffering the same treatment in our village some thirty odd years after the event and will never ever be forgiven for their actions.
I’m sure great times were had, but sounds like awful working conditions, that I’m unashamed to admit I’m glad I didn’t experience. Sounds a bit like being in the trenches in WW1, in that it can’t be appreciated fully unless experienced.
Nearest I've been was a visit down Caphouse Colliery re- National Mining Museum. During the tour, couldn't help thinking how brave the lads must have been to keep going down that hell hole day in, day out. An absolutely horrendous way to have to earn brass to provide for your family.
A lot of miners didnt want their sons going down the pits, so if other jobs were there then I've a feeling they'd have pushed them that way. One problem though with having a job automatically at one place of work be it a factory or mine meant that schools struggled to sell education in some cases as it was seen as unimportant, hence a lower base for relocating alternative works.
To emphasise how bad the conditions were we were told that young kids had to pull the tubs up the roadway for other members of the family to fill them with coal. To illustrate how difficult it was, they herded the visiting party into a narrow seam and extinguished all the lights. It was ink black and you had a genuine fear that if you moved you could have easily banged into something. It was such a relief to some, that a cheer went up when the lights came back on.
He did mate , he was very critical of the Nottinghamshire miners crossing picket lines and said so once on a tv chat show , not sure if it was Terry Wogan or Russel Harty but he didn’t mince his words that they shouldn’t be crossing . There’s a photo I think on the Campaign for Orgreave of him with miners on a Notts Picket line . Can remember Jack Charlton doing same on a chat show whilst he was Wendy Manager .