Posted on here 12 months ago that they had to get rid of var but even as it gets more stupid the longer it goes on, in my view covid has been its saviour because if things had been normal i dont think fans would have put up with it.But as it is watching on tv with no crowds, nobodys bothered about 5 min delays and all the other situations that is ruining football.Cant wait for normality and maybe football sanity.
I've never had an issue with VAR. If it helps the referee get the big decisions right, then it helps everyone. The problem is the people using it don't seem to know the rules, and yet, they're the people who should know the rules. The technology doesn't need scrapping, the people using it need better educating.
My problem is referee's over ruling themselves. You don't need to change every decision after viewing the monitor. Grow some bo llocks.
That's fair enough. And I do understand why some people don't like it. But how many times have we been on the end of a contentious decision, or not got a penalty when we should have? If the technology is there to help the referee make these potentially season defining decisions, why not use it. There's cameras everywhere inside a stadium now. As I say, I don't think the technology is the problem. The problem is, some referees refuse to be proven wrong, or people reviewing decisions ignore build up to a decision, or the handball rule constantly changing. Once there's consistency from the people using the technology, we'll begin to wonder how we ever coped without VAR.
Agree archey, Technology is great, but while there's still a human factor (referees) then "the rules" will be open to interpretation. One referee would give a penalty/sending off another one wouldn't etc. etc.
The problem is really the way its used for offsides and to a lesser extent handballs though the latter seems to have improved recently. We had 2 classic examples of it being wrong this weekend. The Bamford goal for Leeds being disallowed because he pointed where he wanted the ball and his arm was "offfside" even though his body was clearly onside and then the goal scored by West Ham where a clearly offside striker definitely interfered with play as the defender had to intercept the ball chasing back but could only manage a poor header that was then passed straight back to the now onside striker for him to score An attacker jumping for the ball in an offside position should be given offside whether or not he touches it. In the old pre VAR rules the llnesman would have flagged and no one would have given it a second thought. Now the linesman keeps his flag down Because he doesnt score immediately VAR doesnt even go back and check as that was in the previous phase. Its the system which is wrong not the technology itself
Var has been in use in competetive games since 2017 and has literally got worse,listen to the pundits and managers who at first were all for it.Consistency has been an issue for ever and will always be there whether we have var or not,because we all have opinions.Why keep something that has become a laughing stock all over(Dortmund v Munich ) on saturday for example.
At half time in the Wolves v Leicester game they cut to footage from the VAR room and someone was obviously getting a bollocking for telling the ref to look at it again and that it might be a pen... Shambles.
I was a big supporter of VAR coming in as I hoped it would get rid of diving and correcting glaring errors (eg Lampard's goal against Germany). As far as I'm aware it's done nothing to stamp out diving and cheating but HAS led to a huge blow to the spontaneity that the game thrives on. A goal scored in football has very few equals in other sports in terms of importance and adrenaline rush. VAR is eroding that as the first instinct when your team scores is becoming a muted celebration until it's decided if VAR will override it. The first thing they need to do is change the var application to requiring that there should be clear daylight between the striker and last defender in an attempt to take out the ridiculous decisions of goals being struck off because a striker's finger is offside. Fix it or get rid of it.
I reckon stick a chip in every player's boot and use an impact sensor in the ball/microphone system to determine when the ball is played. You can then have a near instantaneous objective decision on 99% of offsides.
Its impossible to fix it as it was impossible for every referee to get every decision right, but the game was exciting and fluent and not a joke.
That would work if they change the rule to be based on boots rather than body but even then it depends where the sensor is. Id prefer we go back to on field decisions with a review for obvious errors. If in real time a player is 5mm offside and the linesman doesnt spot it the on field decision should stand. If there is a clear error where the player is half a yard offside then VAR should overrule. Do something similar to umpires call in cricket where the on field decision stands unless there is an obvious error
Cricket have got it right. So for off side it should be referees call, unless there was clear daylight between the players then you go with whichever decision the ref gave, be it goal or offside.
That was definitely not offside. I'd say that you can only be offside if you use an arm or shoulder to actually score the goal, otherwise you give advantage to the attacker.
Which one did you think we definitely not offside. IF you mean the Bamford one I agree - though the VAR official decided otherwise - though on what basis I am really not sure. You wouldnt win a photo finish in the 100m by sticking your arm out ahead of your competitor- there they go on your torso - surely it should be the same in football. If you mean the West Ham goal I would argue the guy was offside - had he not been there the defender wouldnt have had to play a header he wasnt correctly positioned to make because he had stepped up to play the forward offside
