The government saying the premier League should fund small clubs

So Boris banned small clubs from having customers and yet Boris thinks private companies should fun that government imposed drop in income just because they're in the same industry.

Presumably then McDonald's should send a cheque for a few thousand to Albert Street cafe, Cineworld should pay parkway cinema for their lack of custom and river island should pay the closet queen darn the arcade for Boris not letting her open.

What a load of old tosh. You forced companies to close Boris, you randomly selected who could and who couldn't have customers back based on nothing but a prejudice against the kind of lowlife commoners who work in those places and you chose to waste money needlessly funding industries who didn't need the help. The big accountancy firms who furloughed a quarter of their staff for example. What a waste of money.

You have made a complete mess of this Boris. You fix it

 

I agree fully. Football clubs need to live within their means. I've got sympathy for any club running at a profit prior to covid and are now losing money but any willingly running at a loss previously well tough. But I think it's absolutely ludicrous that Tory boy has banned them from having customers yet is essentially asking their rival businesses to pay for that. He banned them he should sort it out or should start treating football fans as humans. You're allowed more old folk in a church than you are people in an open air football ground. Nobody can agree with that surely.

 

national league clubs, some of who are part time haven’t seen a fan through the door since mid March. There’s a small tv deal but not for the national league north/south The bar has been shut. season tickets can’t be sold.

These clubs need fans through the gate. For many it’s the only source of income and for most the major income.

Clubs at step 3 (northern / southern premier) can have 600 fans, bars open, food stand open, club shop open all with safe distancing.

Obviously the corona virus can differentiate between fans of each steps teams.

The government can sort this in 1 minute. The fact they haven’t and have just shrugged their shoulders doesn’t surprise me. Absolute set of *****

 

strange but true fact.

Barrow in Furness has two football teams.

Barrow and Furness.

On Barrows first game in the football league Furness were also at home on the adjoining stadia/pitch.

Barrow had an empty stadium while the SSN updates you could clearly see the crowds at the lower tier club.

 

Cineworld have losses of 1.6 billion due to Covid - unlike Premier league clubs they need people through the doors. Majority of Premier League clubs can survive without paying customers.

 

Should be targeting the PL, FA , EFL and The TV companies to sort it out tbh .
Yes the TV company’s are paying for a product but it’s an end product where many of the stars started out from needs servicing as well .
Trouble is that then you have chairmen , Boards etc directing what this money is to be spent on and there in lies the problem .

 

I thought exactly the same thing. I don’t see them asking Wetherspoons to give money to the Dog and Duck.

 

I might be in a minority, but for once I'm with the government (can't believe I've actually typed that, might need a lie down in a minute).
There's no shortage of money in football, the problem is that the overall cake is carved up wrong. It's not the taxpayer or governments fault that the system is so ****ing inequitable.

There are plenty of small business owners who have been left with nothing after years and years of hard work getting their businesses off the ground. Some of them post on here. I'd rather my taxes helped those people out, than got pissed away into the bottomless pit of football finances.

 

He could always treat their customers the same as he does any other humans and allow them to buy their products.

Why is Mavis and her mates allowed to gather indoors in a church but I can't go to an outdoor venue with a LOT of space?

 

Probably because Mavis is unlikely to be pissed up and shouting and gobbing while in church.

 

So don't allow drunks into matches.

Allowing the most vulnerable to socialise and gather in an enclosed space but banning others from much larger outdoor spaces is laughable. I wonder which of the two are more likely to by Toru voters

 

Have you ever been for a **** at half time; No large outdoor spaces there.

 

That can be managed. The lack of alcohol sales would help massively with that.

 

One week’s wage of a top premier league player is enough to fund a grass roots club for years. It’s about time money was distributed more equitably throughout the football pyramid, because without grassroots football and lower league clubs there would be no premier league.

I can’t tell what you’re advocating for here? Is that football clubs should be allowed to fill their stadia again, which would be irresponsible. Or is that the government should be propping up clubs rather than the premier league?

The government has already borrowed nearly £180 billion that we’re going to have the pay back. That’s £3k extra in taxes per person. The premier league can afford look out for football clubs whilst we look out for the rest of the economy.

 

Should Tesco be propping up failing retail outlets who had to close?
Should McDonald's be distributing money throughout the food hospitality industry and funding Oakwell sandwich shop? They make enough money to do so right?

Football fans should be treated as cinema goers are, as church goers are etc. The virus doesn't look at what you're watching and make a decision based on that. It doesn't think hmmm nah, that's Tom cruise in front of them I'll leave them alone, I thought it was messi first.

 

Football is completely different in both respects and you know it.

By far and away the majority of expenditure in the premier league is discretionary. Chelsea don’t need to spend £70 million on Havertz and the associated wages. They could stay in business just as easily by playing home grown players like Calum Hudson Odoi. Football is a unique industry where there is a huge excess of money at the top of the game, which is why transfer fees and wages have ballooned. They can easily afford to help out other clubs that contribute to the popularity of football more generally. They would only need to cut down slightly on their discretionary spend, and they need not fear about losing their competitive edge if everyone in the premier league is asked to do the same.

Last time I checked, 10,000 people weren’t all travelling on public transport to my local church or my local cinema. A reduced capacity inside the football grounds may be safe, but millions extra travelling to and from games on a Saturday afternoon is nothing like a the number of cinema goers which are spread out across the entire week.

 

Your analogy is a bit suspect. Tesco's would be quite happy if every other food retailer collapsed and they had a the market to themselves. That's not the same at all with football clubs, is it? Not much of a tournament with only one club.

You're twisting the issue to make a point about attending matches during a pandemic. That's not about to happen any time soon, whether you like it or not. The question is: who should be keeping the smaller clubs afloat until we get through the crisis?

 

What about the parachute payment for Fulham ?, if that had been divided amongst the EFL which it should have been ,then it would have provided a life line to a lot of clubs but the greedy premier league deemed their need was greater .

 

Totally agree, plenty of money in Football available.
Asking/expecting the Government to pay as an outset is wrong, it should only be an expectancy once all other avenues have been genuinely been explored.
Where is the FA in this helping/supporting their members, even the PFA who could step in and help clubs who are struggling.