Boris the liar at it again

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  1. MDG

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    I do honestly think that the last election was the hardest ever because I didn't buy into any single party. I sit on the fence rightly where there is no clear evidence ie this tiny video. Actually if you do go back and read posts, my main point of contention with Labour since I'd say the Milliband tenure is that all I heard was criticism of Tory policies rather than promoting their own agenda. That's how they need to be to win the next election. Just focus on their own ideas and slam it to the public this is the alternative.. If I am honest, I'm not Keir Starmers biggest fan but that's more purely based on a persona perspective rather than policy. That may be a bit unfair on him, he is obviously a very intelligent guy so giving him the benefit of the doubt that he will do a good job. I really wanted somebody fresh, unheard of to bring the party into the next election, stop all the bitter infighting which has been evident for too long. Think the star in the pack is Anneliese Dodds, maybe potential next leader material.

    On the criticism thing, just because I play devils advocate quite often it's trying to put another angle on stuff. Not everything is so clear cut and everyone has a right to question an opinion as far as I am concerned.
     
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    No Marlon, that's a different angle completely to how the thread was developing. Of course what you suggested would have been the best course of action, it seems daft not to recognise the situation from his perspective as I've said before. But I would be really interested to know how the school respond to the guy that asked the question as to why they are all sat together. That was my only point. Not sure why people think that is a Boris love in, it's just looking at reality.
     
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    No it’s just as the thread was going , if you’re conceding the point fair enough but a look through the posts will clearly see which way you were taking it .
    The Boris love in as you call it came completely from your posts and others have obviously seen this too and responded to your posts .
     
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    Tories av fukin siht em
     
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    Skewed view pal. It was all about who had set the room up. Other folk knew 100% from a video that it was his team. I said, it could have easily been the error of the school. No evidence to suggest either way.. When I was chair of govs at the local school, when we had the local MP round, it certainly wasn't dictated by them how a room would be set up. they were just taken into a lesson and then did a talk a bit later in the sports hall. Either way on that video issue. Mess up by the PM for being blind to the fact and equally to the headteacher for not stepping in on safeguarding grounds.

    Thread has been done to death now anyways. CBA saying any more on the subject.
     
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    ‘Tis why I stood and stand by Corbyn. Would his policies have worked. Only god knows. But hand on heart I wanted him to be given the chance to change society for the better for all and was the only labour leader ever, I thought could bring society together and give over pandering to the haves rather than the have nots. Sadly the haves have forgotten their roots in fighting for justice for the have nots.
    Middle ground labour is not my first choice. I Was never a Blairite and would have liked to see Milliband given a chance. Yes he criticised a lot but I believe slightly more centre left than Blair’s centre standing. It suits the tories to have this making us feel we’ve never had it better. Who are we.? After Covid the tories will stand by and watch those at the bottom. ( million’s of unemployed) fight for the scraps. minimum wage will be a familiar sight. For jobs commanding a lot more years gone by.
    Questioning opinions is a given. But whatever you would like to hear regards the video, does not escape the fact that Boris and his PR screwed up massively. Remember the buffoon going round bragging he was shaking hands . I’m alright jack irresponsible attitude in hospitals. How many times does he have to screw up before even his most ardent of admirers realise what an idiot they’re backing. He’s the man these idiots look up to. Makes em all idiots imo.
     
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    Gone in full circle again ,anybody bar the bloke making the rules .
    I can’t be bothered either tbh,have taken your insults and takedowns and obvious you (forgetting ) what you’ve posted previously .
    In your world the headteacher rules over govts procedure under their noses aye alright .
     
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    Haven’t got a clue where you stand. :)
     
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    See that programm where eveyone argeed it was a brilliant idea, then everyone was told it was Corbyn's & then fcked it off after they found out. This is the Tory ****'s we are living with.
     
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    The head wouldn't have stepped in on safeguarding grounds as school have been told not to bother with any social distancing whatsoever within bubbles. The point isn't that Boris or his team would have purposefully sat a load of kids together as a one off when normally no-one sits together, it's that kids would also normally be sat close together in that bit too but they'll have moved some of the kids from the seats in view to look like classrooms are more distanced than they are. It may have be that there are less kids in school than normal because not everyone has sent them back, some parents may have refused to have their kids filmed or any other reason for there being more spaces than kids but I think the chance that those spaces just coincidentally happened to all be at that end of the room is 0.000001%.
     
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    Wouldn’t be about this by any chance?

    Sunak had to be dragged kicking and screaming into providing the furlough scheme in the first place by a Labour movement team spearheaded by Unite’s Howard Beckett and supported by then-Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn, as Sunak originally wanted merely to funnel money straight into company bail-outs.
     
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    That high o_O. ;) :)
     
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    Ah so in terms of a bubble now then, that applies to a full year group being a bubble. So essentially nobody has done anything wrong in this video as all guidance has been followed and the children were probably sitting in their normal places anyway. We've just had an email from the daughters school actually confirming the same arrangements, just each year group is a bubble and it's practically impossible to distance them in an education setting.
     
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    Yes, exactly, the school is just following the government's guidance. The point ST is making is that Johnson (or his team) are deliberately misleading people to look like the kids are spread out and social distancing despite the fact that they aren't as they've specifically been told not to. I would bet everything I own that the kid's normal places don't just happen to include a couple of kids spread out in the exact frame of the camera and that a little bit of seat swapping happened.
     
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    Classes will be sitting together - I think in this instance they were trying to show parents it's all safe with children sat apart - last few seconds is the reality. Just be honest
     
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    Also, has everyone seen that new guidance was dropped around 8pm yesterday evening, on a bank holiday weekend, when many schools are due back on Tuesday. Some schools in Leicester (who have had the strictest lockdown) have already been back for 3 days.

     
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    Read some tweets about this today -heads received the email at 9 o'clock on the Friday night of a Bank Holiday weekend - absolutely shambolic! This is why teaching unions get so angry - the original return to work guidelines changed 41 times during the final week. The head's union has flipped about this latest one ....
     
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    Those distanced kids.. That's the new version of the naughty corner :D:D If you do that again young man, you will be distanced from your classmates.
     
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    They've already changed this guidance after issuing it:



    Whenever they make a change, they never highlight it either so you have to read the entire thing to find out what has changed.
     

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