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  1. dreamboy3000

    dreamboy3000 Well-Known Member

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    The locals had a great weekend.......

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-53816511

    Look how quickly you can eradicate Covid from an area if you commit to testing every single person who lives there. Now if only our government could get hold of around 67 million tests, all positive cases self isolate and those who come to the UK have to be tested on arrival and self isolate until they get a negative result.
     
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    If only we’d have actually locked down. We wouldn’t still be bleeding money, jobs and people.
     
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    Well said. We wouldn't need a vaccine either that in the long run many people will make a lot of money out of people taking. Test everyone to eradicate it and then no vaccine would be needed. The money our government have wasted this year would have been better spent on a Covid test for everyone campaign like Wuhan have done.
     
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    It was very short-sighted thinking to try and keep places like ASOS open. Full lockdown except for essential workers (actual essentials, not the list they came up with) or people that can work from home. UBI for all for a month. Business grants for running costs while closed. Would have been very expensive, but would be all over now. We’d be back to normal. Then carry on with testing for anyone with symptoms and as soon as there‘a community transmission, squash it. That’s the only way to eradicate this. We’ve already spent too much money though to make it feasible now. Sunk cost fallacy in action with our government.
     
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    Or we would just been in the position Australia and Argentina find themselves now.
     
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    Wuhan - if only the Chinese would stop eating wildlife such as bats and insects then we wouldn’t have Chinese Flu sweeping across and devastating the world.
     
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    421 total deaths and the lowest number of cases in Victoria for one month?

    Or under 6000 deaths in total?

    Both significantly better than we have been here

    If only we'd stop encroaching on the habitats of bats and other species. It is not thought to be from eating (cooking would kill the virus) but other transmission vectors such as living and working in close proximity.
     
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    Unless you plan on either closing the borders completely and forever or can confidently say that every other country would also eradicate it then a vaccine would still be necessary.
     
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    True but they are stuck in a perpetual lockdown and having borders closed. That's a bigger problem for us with our reliance on movement of goods and people in and out of europe.
     
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    Living your life in the fear of dying isnt living at all.
     
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    pity they didn’t crack down on the wet markets for months, that’s probably why they have had a big drop
    Be interesting to see what a stupid gathering of this size brings on
     
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    Wuhan gave every single resident a test and now they are free of Covid. Our own government have wasted a lot of money when they should have spent some on doing the same here. Then you could test people on arrival to the UK so you can be sure nobody is going to start spreading it again. 8 weeks now of deaths being under the five year average.......

     
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    Is Wuhan itself still within a quarantine? Unless they are stopping people from entering or know that visitors are also uninfected it is not stopping another outbreak. And Hubei province has nearly 60 million residents.

    I posted on another thread on here, but the underlying R in the UK is over 1 and has been since July. The number of positive cases has doubled in a month (much better than every 3 days) and there is a high likelihood that we will have to close pubs to open schools.
     
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    Well if it's a straight choice between those two it shouldn't be much of choice.
    Be a mighlty unpopular decision if deaths continue to stay so low.
     
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    The positive cases aren't resulting in more deaths or hospital admissions or 111 calls with symptoms. It all adds up to the virus being more infectious but less deadly......

    https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-h...-good-thing-says-disease-expert-idUKKCN25E08Y

    Some Italian Scientists were saying that a few months ago. It's clear that the virus doesn't appear to be as powerful as back in March-May and is getting weaker over time like SARS did.
     
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    There was talk yesterday of a new strain found in Malaysia that’s far more infectious. We need to be careful still.
     
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    If it is getting weaker then the decision to let it around the care homes has really backfired. So many lives could have been saved.
     
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    If we see the pubs closed to open the schools then I expect to see cafes closed, non essential shops closed. Places of worship closed. Gyms closed. Museums closed.

    Or we start realising that even though like with every viral strain a minority will suffer extreme side effects or in a worst case scenario death, we accept that this virus is here to stay and we start living again other than merely existing.
     
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    Is it that or is it because people who are likely to die from it have been avoiding all public contact in the last few months as more support has been put in place to enable them to do so (more availability of food delivery slots for example)? I don't know the answer, it's a genuine question.
     
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    It’s so sad that you feel you’re not living and just existing.

    me? I work, I see the grandkids, I’m choosing not to go on holiday (or even to the pub) but spending the money on other things.

    I’m definitely ‘living’ and not just existing.
     

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